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Author Topic: You Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy? [Locked]
Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Ron Paul thinks we shouldn't hold him responsible for a monthly publication that he owns and holds his signature. He claims he didn't know about it until ten years after it was published. Yet he wants us to believe he's responsible enough to run the country. Ten years after his term ends will he use the same excuse for things the country did under his name?

I thought the Republican Party was the party of personal responsibility.



Pretty much all you need to know (and that's IF he didn't say/write/believe any of the crap that has been attributed to him).

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

So in a thread where the Ron Paul camp accuses those against him of not having an original thought, their argument is to go read someone elses work.

Sorry guys, I'm not here to make your arguments for you. If you want me to believe he is right and you guys support him because our current policy is wrong, at least back up your claim with some reasons.

You can't make anyone's arguments for them because you simply are ignorant of history. America's geopolitical grand strategy isn't something summed in a paragraph (even though I gave you an outline), YOU are going to need to read at minimum a published chapter on it to get even modestly briefed.

We live in the information age, you could bother yourself to initiate a web search on the topic and stop pretending that somehow because we don't want to feed you book length volumes that we aren't holding up our end of the argument.
Ashmaele  4 stars
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My personal theory is that Ron Paul is very much like his supporters, a person who kinda glosses over the messy fringe stuff if the guy talking hits the high notes of low taxes and disliking the government. So they overlook stuff like an obsession with the Confederacy or belief that the NWO is trying to depopulate America with the flu vaccine, and after a while they kinda forget that stuff is even fringey. And now virulently opposing the Civil Rights Act and worrying about FEMA camps is just what libertarians think, those are defining characteristics.

At that point, what are you gonna do? Sure it'd be great to be against the drug war without also thinking that slave owners deserved compensation from the tyrant Lincoln, but it's a package deal!

And this ghostwriters sleight of hand is too little, too late. If Paul had made these same statements a decade ago, they might have been seen as credible. He waited way too long.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
You've said we have a policy of destabilization and you can't even give me an example.

My argument is simple: the US is a force for overall good in the world. It's ability to maintain stabilization stems from its military presence. My evidence is the lack of major wars and genocides throughout the world and the greater freedom enjoyed by the individuals of the world.

Your argument is also simple: nuh uh! Your evidence: go read a book.

wow, I'm convinced! You cant even come up with two original sentences to support Ron Paul's foreign policy in a thread specifically discussing Ron Paul's foreign policy. Why are you even posting?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

You've said we have a policy of destabilization and you can't even give me an example.

The coup in Guatemala in 1954 would be an example, not that one isolated example would define the entirety of US foreign policy.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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No world war since the US took charge of the world

 

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poetkiosk  2 stars
Title: Snail Hunter
Posts: 297
Registered: 2002-3-17 04:37:03
what a piece of crap using 9/11.


puke

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Ashmaele posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

You've said we have a policy of destabilization and you can't even give me an example.

The coup in Guatemala in 1954 would be an example, not that one isolated example would define the entirety of US foreign policy.



Thank you, at least now I can start to understand the context in which we're talking about.

 

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smellymotor  3 stars
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Registered: 2004-9-12 04:15:23
This guy will get himself killed before he brings any change

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Ashmaele posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

You've said we have a policy of destabilization and you can't even give me an example.

The coup in Guatemala in 1954 would be an example, not that one isolated example would define the entirety of US foreign policy.

Or the entire middle east, Central America, South America...

 

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