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Ptilk  Title: Creepy old pirate
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Paul appeals to people with his "stop the stupid wars" thing. The vast majority of this country, both Repub and Demo, want to stop the stupid wars. They finally realize they got duped into them and that they serve no national security purpose.
That's it. No other reasons.
If (when actually) those people finally understand all the other crap the guy is for, the vast majority of it totally insane, well then his popularity will drop like a rock. He is the flavor of the week....not the man who will save us from ourselves.
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Koneg posted:
Ron Paul's "foreign policy" (placed in quotes, since it's more accurately described as foreign lunacy)
* Believes 9/11 was an inside job courtesy of our own CIA. (Yes, he's a tr00ther)
* Believes we should not have fought Germany in WWII. At all. (Never mind the fact that Germany declared on us)
* Would not have authorized the SEAL team mission to take out Bin Laden.
* Believes that Israel should not exist as a sovereign state.
* Founding Member: Blame America First Crowd. Literally everything in his view is "blowback" for US foreign policy, from Pearl Harbor to 9/11. Everything is our own fault.
* Has stated that under his Presidency if he received concrete irrefutable proof that Iran had obtained a nuclear weapon, the US should do.... nothing. Damn the treaty they signed! It's their right to have Teh Bomb! 
* Would close (or try to close) all military bases abroad. Every single one of them.
* Believes in the "North American Union" conspiracy theory.
* Would stop all foreign and humanitarian aid spending, including everything we're doing in Africa to combat AIDS and Malaria (never mind the fact that it'll come back to haunt the US if we don't fight that battle - he doesn't give a damn about the potential consequences)
To put it as succinctly and accurately as possible, Ron Paul is insane.
This isn't hyperbole or rhetoric - it's an easily provable fact. That there are those here who insist on supporting this lunacy continues to amaze.
At least get your facts right. Ron Paul has categorically denied any belief in 9/11 being a CIA job. Stop following the herd brother. The rest of your "rhetoric", and I'm only quoting you, are not at all entirely disagreeable.
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Koneg  Title: Evil Genius
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positive1lock posted:
At least get your facts right. Ron Paul has categorically denied any belief in 9/11 being a CIA job.
Uh...
Students for 9/11 Truth:
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Student: …we’ve heard that you have questioned the government’s official account.
Paul: Well, I never automatically trust anything the government does when they do an investigation because too often I think there’s an area that the government covered up, whether it’s the Kennedy assassination or whatever.
Student: So I just wanted to say, you know, we’ve talked to Dennis Kucinich and he says that he’s willing to, you know, investigate it. He would advocate for a new investigation.
Paul: Into 9/11?
Student: Yeah, into 9/11. I mean, if it was Dennis Kucinich and you, there’d be congressional support. You know what I mean? So you wouldn’t be the only one.
Paul: It’d be bipartisan, too. And I’ve worked with Dennis a lot on a lot of these issues.
Student: So I mean, would you advocate for a new investigation into 9/11?
Paul: Yes, I think we have to look at the details of it. There could be a better investigation because there’s a split in government. So I would certainly consider that and think it could be worthwhile. If you do the same thing over and over again, you’re just spinning your wheels. But I would certainly work with Dennis. So I’ll talk to Dennis and he’s in a position now in the party majority, so he might have a better chance with it.
Student: Yeah, he has subpoena power and everything, so…
Paul: And we’d have a better chance of getting a new investigation. Too often investigations on almost any issue is usually a cover-up.
Alex Jones Show:
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CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?
HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.
You can keep telling yourself over and over again that he's not a tr00ther, but those of us with multiple brain cells to run together aren't buying it.
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The US has not declared war since 1941. See anything wrong yet?
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All you have to do is Google it... Ron Paul can no more distance himself from truthers than you can facts and VN posts. Follow the herd... you're just another cow.
BTW... Ron Paul starts off that interview with "it was not an inside job". You still need to get your facts straight or are you "reading between the lines" again?
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Koneg Title: Evil Genius
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positive1lock posted:
All you have to do is Google it... Ron Paul can no more distance himself from truthers than you can facts and VN posts. Follow the herd... you're just another cow.
Says the person who refuses to acknowledge facts? Wow.
No, he has not categorically stated that 9/11 was an inside job - not will he. It's political suicide and if nothing else he is an astute politician.
That said, do you see any other reason why he would comment as he does when asked these questions? Of course not. Do you see any other reason why every "tr00ther" organization you care to look at enthusiastically supports Ron Paul and believes him to be one of "them"??
Do you see any other reason why every single die-hard tr00ther that posts to these boards is also a die-hard Ron Paul supporter, believing (accurately) that Ron Paul is one of "them"?
I, not being a cow who follows the Ron Paul herd, can look at those three facts together and draw the proper conclusion: He's a tr00ther to the bone.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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Koneg posted:
positive1lock posted:
At least get your facts right. Ron Paul has categorically denied any belief in 9/11 being a CIA job.
Uh...
Students for 9/11 Truth:
Quote:
Student: …we’ve heard that you have questioned the government’s official account.
Paul: Well, I never automatically trust anything the government does when they do an investigation because too often I think there’s an area that the government covered up, whether it’s the Kennedy assassination or whatever.
Student: So I just wanted to say, you know, we’ve talked to Dennis Kucinich and he says that he’s willing to, you know, investigate it. He would advocate for a new investigation.
Paul: Into 9/11?
Student: Yeah, into 9/11. I mean, if it was Dennis Kucinich and you, there’d be congressional support. You know what I mean? So you wouldn’t be the only one.
Paul: It’d be bipartisan, too. And I’ve worked with Dennis a lot on a lot of these issues.
Student: So I mean, would you advocate for a new investigation into 9/11?
Paul: Yes, I think we have to look at the details of it. There could be a better investigation because there’s a split in government. So I would certainly consider that and think it could be worthwhile. If you do the same thing over and over again, you’re just spinning your wheels. But I would certainly work with Dennis. So I’ll talk to Dennis and he’s in a position now in the party majority, so he might have a better chance with it.
Student: Yeah, he has subpoena power and everything, so…
Paul: And we’d have a better chance of getting a new investigation. Too often investigations on almost any issue is usually a cover-up.
Alex Jones Show:
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CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?
HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.
You can keep telling yourself over and over again that he's not a tr00ther, but those of us with multiple brain cells to run together aren't buying it.
No where in any of that does he even hint that it was an inside job...
Holy crap you are a nutter Koneg.
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Koneg Title: Evil Genius
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Aerlinthian posted:
Koneg is in meltdown mode today.
**scratches head**
Debating the resident Ron Paul Groupies is a /meltdown ??
Edit: Well, there might be some truth to that I suppose, considering how pointless it can be to try and argue with crazy. 
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Koneg posted:
No, he has not categorically stated that 9/11 was an inside job - not will he.
BUHAHAH
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