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Sinlock  Title: Savior of the Camelot Outpost
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paulg_68 posted:
What's the story on what can and can't be replicated?
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A replicator can create any inanimate matter, as long as the desired molecular structure is on file, but it cannot create antimatter, dilithium, latinum, or a living organism of any kind; in the case of living organisms, non-canon works such as the Star Trek: the Next Generation Technical Manual state that, though the replicators use a form of transporter technology, it's at such a low resolution that creating living tissue is a physical impossibility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_%28Star_Trek%29
It can do this - yet commerce is alive and well on DS9? That one cardassian dude is a tailor - why have a tailor at all when you can replicate new pants that fit? Why have Quarks sell you drinks when you can replicate drinks for free? Just none of it makes sense at all.
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Sinlock posted:
paulg_68 posted:
What's the story on what can and can't be replicated?
Wiki!
Wikipedia posted:
A replicator can create any inanimate matter, as long as the desired molecular structure is on file, but it cannot create antimatter, dilithium, latinum, or a living organism of any kind; in the case of living organisms, non-canon works such as the Star Trek: the Next Generation Technical Manual state that, though the replicators use a form of transporter technology, it's at such a low resolution that creating living tissue is a physical impossibility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_%28Star_Trek%29
It can do this - yet commerce is alive and well on DS9? That one cardassian dude is a tailor - why have a tailor at all when you can replicate new pants that fit? Why have Quarks sell you drinks when you can replicate drinks for free? Just none of it makes sense at all.
Maybe the money is in making unique replicator designs.
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at a chemical level, food is far more complex than a phaser.
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Rhint Posts: 268
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Yossarian_42  Title: RUSH > ALL
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People go to the bar for the social aspect. They also pay for access to Quark's holosuite. Perhaps people prefer real clothes to replicated clothes, that seems like a pretty realistic conceit.
Does every space faring culture have replicators?
I'm sure there are a number of things to trade that can't be replicated. Energy sources, medicine, etc. I'm equally sure there is a massive collectors market for non-replicated things such as original books, clothes, artifacts, etc. What about things too large to easily replicate? I'm sure more than a few ships have traded hands at DS9, not to mention large spaceship parts.
There is also the buying and selling of information as well as services. If you need to hire a man to do a thing where would you go? Perhaps Quark's on Deep Space 9?
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Sinlock Title: Savior of the Camelot Outpost
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Yossarian_42 posted:
I'm sure there are a number of things to trade that can't be replicated. Energy sources, medicine, etc. I'm equally sure there is a massive collectors market for non-replicated things such as original books, clothes, artifacts, etc. What about things too large to easily replicate? I'm sure more than a few ships have traded hands at DS9, not to mention large spaceship parts.
A replicator can convert any object to energy in order to use it to replicate other items.
Medicine can definitely be replicated; there have been many episodes where Beverly Crusher replicates some anti-dote or other nonsense once she knows the molecular structure.
As far as spaceship parts, from the wiki:
Wikipedia posted:
...in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, industrial replicators are used to replicate large components of ships, shuttlecraft, and other pieces of this sort, which are later used in shipyards to construct such vessels. In this manner, as few as 15 industrial replicators are enough to replicate the components needed to build a fleet of starships or to help a civilization recover from a planet-wide natural disaster.
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paulg_68 posted:
What's the story on what can and can't be replicated?
I think they can replicate simple things like food or clothing, but they cannot replicate something as complex as a phaser.
Anyone know the details on what can and cannot be replicated?
There's a DS9 episode where replicators in Ops are used to create some type of automatic beam weapon sophisticated enough to target only non-Cardassians, so that theory is pretty much shot to hell, so to speak. The technology is used to support the story, not the other way around. If you really want to lose every bit of Star Trek immersion you've ever felt, think about how the latest movie handled the alternate timeline scenario vs. how every single episode of Star Trek before that handled it.
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Testerion  Posts: 549
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How DS9 was born: Writer of Babylon5 went to producers of Star Trek, they read his scripts and then went to next room, lots of copying machine sounds were heard and then they returned, gave the guy ripped open script and said "naww we dont need this, bye!"
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Lyndrek Title: Moderator
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I always figured that for the trading stuff is because though a replicator can replicate almost anything it probably takes more energy to replicate something then it does to simply trade for it?
maybe?
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Testerion Posts: 549
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Lyndrek posted:
I always figured that for the trading stuff is because though a replicator can replicate almost anything it probably takes more energy to replicate something then it does to simply trade for it?
maybe?
Hey that pink goo that replicators use to make stuff with isnt free!
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