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paulg_68  4 stars
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Modeeb posted:

Our education is a disgrace. Our teachers come from the lower third of their classes.


And they all preach libtardism to our children.

Go figure.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Onslaught. posted:

In state universities, colleges as well as public k-12 schools, the amount of funding continues to go up, but administrators continually give themselves raises and hire more administrators rather than the hiring more teachers or funding educational expenses.

Blame America's love for the parasites known as business and law majors...



This is a big problem in New Jersey in particular, but otherwise, all I can do is QFT you.


Incidentally, teachers are still doing pretty well compared to most of the rest of the private sector with respect to their retirement, benefits, and the actual presence of their jobs when you consider that so many in the private sector not only didn't get a COLA raise, but got a pink slip instead...

 

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Crooq_Lionfang  1 star
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I'd guess most straight guys would prefer that over



any given day

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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I care more about teachers than most of you, I support public and private education.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Crooq_Lionfang posted:



I'd guess most straight guys would prefer that over

any given day



LOL perhaps... but... your COLA raise will pay for



While your food stamps will only pay for

 

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Kamdar  1 star
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Eithne_Boadicea posted:

That's funny... my dad works in the public school system and not only did he not get the tiny annual raise this year, but he got a 3% pay cut and now pays an increased portion of his insurance premium. I wonder where all that $$ is?



I work for a school district as well.

Is he a teacher? in Texas, pay raises go to teachers 1st, then trickles down to everyone else. Thats mandated by law of course.

I haven't had a raise in 2 years, but we get "insurance rebates" yearly to offset that (LOL..right )

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
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In Finland teachers are respected and it is as difficult to get into a good teaching program as medical or law school. Only 1 in 10 applicants are accepted. We need a revolution in education. I have walked my talk. I earned a graduate degree in education and was prepared to sacrifice my income to work with poor populations. I taught in inner city Oakland. I was fired. The reason is because I was too subversive in my lessons. But, mainly because I would not toady to the administration. Teachers are up administrators who strangle the life out of the classroom.

My recommendation: Get rid of standardized testing. Assess in an authentic context.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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The timeframe you're including is kind of important here.

Since the 1970s, the cost of education has gone up. Paul knows why that's happened; he's been reminded of it in several threads he's made on this topic but he pretty much chooses to avoid talking about it.

Since the current recession, you'd be hard pressed to find a public school that is taking in more money per student than they were before the recession. To some extent, it's a good thing. It's forcing schools to focus on what's important rather than throwing money at the wall to see what sticks. But there is a tipping point where it begins to affect learning and safety as well.

 

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AzureTyger  2 stars
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ZigmundZag posted:

The timeframe you're including is kind of important here.

Since the 1970s, the cost of education has gone up. Paul knows why that's happened; he's been reminded of it in several threads he's made on this topic but he pretty much chooses to avoid talking about it.

Since the current recession, you'd be hard pressed to find a public school that is taking in more money per student than they were before the recession. To some extent, it's a good thing. It's forcing schools to focus on what's important rather than throwing money at the wall to see what sticks. But there is a tipping point where it begins to affect learning and safety as well.



My wife's district eliminated more than 150 teachers, faces another two million dollar budget shortfall, added an entire additional period per teacher per day, increased student-teacher ratio to something like 28-1, instituted an across the board teacher pay cut, raised the retirement age by five years, and is threatening more job cuts if teachers don't renegotiate their contract. Her building principle recently spent $20,000 to renovate his office and the district added two $90k plus administrative positions this year.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Yeah, that sucks. Our district management here is pretty decent comparatively. They've taken pay cuts and have eliminated quite a few administrative positions and are very frugal on the whole when it comes to their own offices. I think there are still a few floating admins they could do without, but it's nothing like the horror stories I hear from some other places.

 

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