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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
sweeny_comodore posted:

Its nothing like the peyote case because peyote is a legaly controlled substance



So are copyrighted works. And they've been legally controlled for a lot longer than Peyote has.


I get it. You don't like the idea of copyrights to begin with and don't think creators should have any right to control the distribution of what they create.


But we've had the system for hundreds of years and it isn't going anywhere. Arguing it isn't a real law is stupid because it clearly is.
Allstarslacker  3 stars
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Registered: 2006-5-23 20:09:28
Szerek posted:

Sweet, I'm going to release an album then wait for the compensation to roll in!



If you put it on the market you most certainly have the right to charge a fee for it, and the law has an obligation to attempt to prevent people from subverting your efforts by making your product available through unauthorized means.

The are always going to be thieves. This is true is the physical retail world it is also true in the virtual retail world.

I can agree with the idea that information should be freely shared, and I can agree that if an artist truly believes in art they should value it's distribution and appreciation more than the money it generates. But I don't think you should force people to give up their creations for free.

I believe one of the biggest reasons why Western culture is so rich is because we've created an environment where artists can devote their lives solely to their craft and still make a good living.

It's not just super star manufactured groups trying to make money by selling their music online. There are a lot of smaller people out there trying to sell their creations. The laws against piracy protect them as well.

I do not think it is in the long term best interest of people who enjoy consuming media to make the creation of such media less desirable. That is why I think people shouldn't steal media.

If you aren't willing to pay people for their effort I think you should at least respect them enough not to consume the product of it.
Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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If people think music or movies are too expensive why don't they just do without?

 

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tenkly  4 stars
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Cry more bitches, it's my internet and I can do what I want on it !

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
This thread is extraordinarily dumb.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Yukishiro1 posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

Its nothing like the peyote case because peyote is a legaly controlled substance



So are copyrighted works. And they've been legally controlled for a lot longer than Peyote has.

I get it. You don't like the idea of copyrights to begin with and don't think creators should have any right to control the distribution of what they create.

But we've had the system for hundreds of years and it isn't going anywhere. Arguing it isn't a real law is stupid because it clearly is.



LOL
you just successfully single handedly destroyed the IQ bell curve on this forum with that remark.
i think its now a flat line with a hockey stick-like end.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Allstarslacker posted:

Szerek posted:

Sweet, I'm going to release an album then wait for the compensation to roll in!



If you put it on the market you most certainly have the right to charge a fee for it, and the law has an obligation to attempt to prevent people from subverting your efforts by making your product available through unauthorized means.

The are always going to be thieves. This is true is the physical retail world it is also true in the virtual retail world.

I can agree with the idea that information should be freely shared, and I can agree that if an artist truly believes in art they should value it's distribution and appreciation more than the money it generates. But I don't think you should force people to give up their creations for free.

I believe one of the biggest reasons why Western culture is so rich is because we've created an environment where artists can devote their lives solely to their craft and still make a good living.

It's not just super star manufactured groups trying to make money by selling their music online. There are a lot of smaller people out there trying to sell their creations. The laws against piracy protect them as well.

I do not think it is in the long term best interest of people who enjoy consuming media to make the creation of such media less desirable. That is why I think people shouldn't steal media.

If you aren't willing to pay people for their effort I think you should at least respect them enough not to consume the product of it.



a lot of the artists agree with that also.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Great rebuttal. You've really convinced me there.


Copyright is a form of legal control. It grants the holder the right to control distribution.


You may not like it but it clearly has a long history as law and isn't going anywhere anytime soon either.


If you want to argue about excessive copyright duration and overbearing regulation like that new bill go for it. By arguing against copyright in the abstract you just show you're a moron.

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