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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Someone's status as a combatant is irrelevant.

According to the rules of our own military, all combatants are to be afforded geneva convention rights - and due process is at the top of that list (know what charges are against you, a chance to defend yourself in court and face your accusers, etc., etc.)

 

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Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
Posts: 571
Registered: 2001-12-20 21:17:22
You have a murder you know is a murder and will murder again if given the chance. Since we are at war we can hold him even if the evidence is tinted. If liberals would get their head out of their ends they would understand this simple idea.

Yes, an undeclared war is a problem but only the really stupid would think we are not at war. It is hard to declare war on a group of people who don't follow any rule of law or war. Liberals would have us shackled to the standards of a declared war when the enemy can do anything they want. It makes for a hard legal battle but it takes very little common sense to see that holding them for as long as possible is the only solution.

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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Registered: 2006-5-23 20:09:28
Who are we at war with?
NuEM  4 stars
Posts: 1,007
Registered: 2004-3-2 09:08:11
Fist_de_Yuma posted:

You have a murder you know is a murder and will murder again if given the chance.



How do you know that?

 

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Fist_de_Yuma  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-20 21:17:22
Allstarslacker posted:

Who are we at war with?



Where have you been the last 10 years? I'll take this as a troll comment because no one is that stupid and/or ignorant.

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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If it's so obvious you should be able to answer it easily.

Who are we at war with?
Azure-TheBlueOne  2 stars
Title: Made in Alaska
Posts: 319
Registered: 2003-2-24 19:25:37
Fist_de_Yuma posted:

Yes, an undeclared war is a problem but only the really stupid would think we are not at war. It is hard to declare war on a group of people who don't follow any rule of law or war. Liberals would have us shackled to the standards of a declared war when the enemy can do anything they want. It makes for a hard legal battle but it takes very little common sense to see that holding them for as long as possible is the only solution.

Yes, allowing your government to be at war against an enemy who could effectively be anybody, against a broad idea which will never cease to exist in our world seems like a good idea. Undeclared war at that, with incredibly unclear boundaries.

I would have us shackled to the rules that created our country in the first place, but it seems some of you would rather our congress just threw it on the floor and walked right over it, after pissing all over it that is in the name of safety.


10 years down, here's to another 100, with ever further freedom encroaching regulations and broader definitions of what constitutes a 'terrorist'!

It'll be fun once that pesky due process and, in particular, habeus corpus, has been completely removed for everyone in order to keep us all safe from the very scary and everywhere terrorism. Loving all this fear mongering and the legislation that goes with it.

/sarcasm

fkn fisted sheep.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Fist_de_Yuma posted:

You have a murder you know is a murder and will murder again if given the chance. Since we are at war we can hold him even if the evidence is tinted. If liberals would get their head out of their ends they would understand this simple idea.



I agree locking people up forever without ever giving them a chance to defend themselves is a simple idea.


I don't think that makes it a good idea.
Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Fist_de_Yuma posted:

You have a murder you know is a murder and will murder again if given the chance.



Except you don't, so your argument falls apart in the first sentence. Maybe should go look up some of the detainees and the reasons they're being held.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
Allstarslacker posted:

Who are we at war with?



Poor brown people

 

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