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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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So create a progressive capital gains tax.

Taliesihne  4 stars
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So exempt senior citizens. Problem solved.

An investment banker my age should be paying the same taxes I am.

 

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Szerek  2 stars
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Koneg posted:

Taliesihne posted:

Money that was invested only after paying income taxes on it?



You do realize that you don't pay taxes on the money you've invested but your gains on that money invested, which is money you've never paid taxes on.

To make is simple for you, you buy 1000 shares of XYZ stock in 2004 for $1 per share. In 2010 you sold all of your XYZ stock for $3 per share. That gives you a capital gain of $2000 which you have never paid taxes on.

A progressive capital gains tax is needed. And not the 0 or 15% tax we have now.

 

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Seething199  2 stars
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Sansfear posted:

1) The money that is being invested has already been taxed at the earned rate.



what an irrelevant point. that money isn't being taxed again. additional profits on that money are now being taxed. low capitol gains tax is little more than a blowjob for the rich. yes, regular people benefit from it too at times. but at not nearly the same rate.

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
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Allstarslacker posted:

So create a progressive capital gains tax.





Dont know why this isnt the case except that we are talking about Washington doing something smert.

 

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Koneg  3 stars
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Szerek posted:

Koneg posted:

Money that was invested only after paying income taxes on it?



You do realize that you don't pay taxes on the money you've invested but your gains on that money invested, which is money you've never paid taxes on.

/facepalm


Duh?


Szerek posted:

To make is simple for you, you buy 1000 shares of XYZ stock in 2004 for $1 per share.

I'll make it simpler for you. The $10,000 you just spent?


You paid income taxes on that $10k when you earned it, right? That was money you invested only after paying income taxes on it.


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Scarne  4 stars
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Sansfear posted:

2) Raising the capital gains rate would significantly reduce the amount of capital available for investment.


There is too much capital available currently. An overabundance of capital helps in creating things like housing bubbles.

 

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Seething199  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-9-23 22:37:41
Koneg posted:

Szerek posted:

Koneg posted:

Money that was invested only after paying income taxes on it?



You do realize that you don't pay taxes on the money you've invested but your gains on that money invested, which is money you've never paid taxes on.

/facepalm

Duh?

Szerek posted:

To make is simple for you, you buy 1000 shares of XYZ stock in 2004 for $1 per share.

I'll make it simpler for you. The $10,000 you just spent?

You paid income taxes on that $10k when you earned it, right? That was money you invested only after paying income taxes on it.

Reading Comprehension: Don't leave home without it.



wtf does that have to do with anything?

 

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Sansfear posted:

Mitt has the same tax rate as everyone else does on their elite status.



 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Koneg posted:

Szerek posted:

Koneg posted:

Money that was invested only after paying income taxes on it?



You do realize that you don't pay taxes on the money you've invested but your gains on that money invested, which is money you've never paid taxes on.

/facepalm

Duh?

Szerek posted:

To make is simple for you, you buy 1000 shares of XYZ stock in 2004 for $1 per share.

I'll make it simpler for you. The $10,000 you just spent?

You paid income taxes on that $10k when you earned it, right? That was money you invested only after paying income taxes on it.

Reading Comprehension: Don't leave home without it.

A) WTF did you come up with $10k - forget about reading comprehension for a moment, do you understand basic math? I think you fail at both reading and math.
B) You took money you earned and already paid taxes on and invested it in XYZ - that investment turned a profit - profits get taxed. You aren't paying taxes on the same money twice. If you already had the profits you made from your investment, it wouldn't be a profit...

U R kind of dumb, obviously.

 

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