I am stupid because your whole argument is based on your idea of what someone you don't even know would do in your hypothetical?

 

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Then I don't think we're ever going to agree.


I just can't make myself feel bad about accessing copyrighted material when it costs the copyright holder absolutely nothing at all and in fact has generally positive economic effects for them. When there is no revenue to be lost I have a hard time seeing why the law should care much. This isn't a situation where the holder has some psychic investment in the work or anything. It's a big multinational corporation that would be happy to sell me the stuff if it thought it could make money doing so.


If you can make yourself feel bad about downloading episodes of TV shows that are broadcast free in their domestic market and characterize it as "stealing" go for it I guess. But I'm not sure how many people you're really going to convince.

Eventually they will shut down streaming pron sites too because tons of copywrited material is there.

I dont steal stuff from the intranetz anymore

 

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You need to kick your property law professor in the balls. You feeling bad about it though isn't really relevant to me.

it's not about feelings it's about the rule of law, and all the benefits we get from it. IP is a huge boon to human kind. but that doesn't mean you have to feel anyway about it. Plenty of people would fantasize about some kind of communal property paradise. I dont' think there's anything wrong with those feelings. If that's what you like and what you want to support then go ahead. T here's no doubt you are stealing though. The fact that you are taking somethign that they say you can't and they own makes it stealing. Sorry if you don't like that word.

The robin hood argument is a compelling argument, and one that i share a lot of sympathy with, but I still don't think it's ok to steal. Change the law if you want to and can, but if you can't manage to obey it then call it what it is.

 

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The law doesn't say it's stealing. It's ironic you would talk about feelings not mattering and then assign a pejorative label the law explicitly DOESN'T assign to it.

Also it isn't so much that they are refusing permission as they really don't care. Japanese TV stations are not about to spend money to let me watch their shows online for free and their lawyers would probably tell them to refuse if I asked them for permission. But if you really think they care you are seriously deluded. Like I said, it's broadcast free to begin with. They have no reason to be anything but happy if they're getting extra viewers.

Sky sports is obviously a little different because it's a subscription model. But if you think even they give a fig about someone in an area they don't offer subscriptions watching their videos I think you are deluded too.

You can say what the copyright holder cares about is also irrelevant but that just seems wrong no matter how you look at it. Copyright protection exists for the sake of the person who holds the protection, not society as a whole. There's no reason for the U.S. to be going around enforcing copyrights if the copyright holders themselves really could care less.

Good Bye FileServe.com


Update: Smaller host UploadBox calls it quits. “All files will be deleted on January 30th. Feel free to download the files you store with UploadBox until this date.”

Update2: Another host, x7.to, shuts down.

Update 3: TorrentFreak has seen evidence that on request PayPal is refunding cash paid to Filesonic over the weekend.

Update 4: FileJungle and UploadStation have disabled all 3rd party downloads.

Update 5: 4shared cancels affiilate program.

It's insane how they're taking these sites down. And we're just going to let it happen, lolololol

Our government is bought and paid for by copyright lobbyists I wonder how long these clowns can keep it going until violent retribution happens? My guess, probably long enough

 

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This is all just temporary panic. I see other sites springing up soon enough.

What do you suggest? Are you really going to get violent because you can't DL your newest South Park, latest Taylor Swift song, or Batman Forever movie?

 

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Movie industries... or better yet the artist themselves offering up the download to it themselves? Nine inch nails and Louis CK do this, hell NIN gives them away for free and helps people torrent them. Most artists get complete boned on CD sales anyhow, only makes a few cents per CD sold. All their money comes from concerts and shows

Changing their money model sounds like a good one. Maybe it is about time for movie and recording executives and artists to no longer believe they'll be instant millionaires. Trampling on other business' rights is never worth it and especially not a corrupt government either, because this is about as blantly corrupt as I have ever seen it

 

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