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Author Topic: US Miltary Drawdown: Europe a TDY post? [Locked]
Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/16543456


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posted: Rotating troops in and out of Europe, rather than having them stationed there, would mean they did not have to be accompanied by their families - a considerable reduction in cost.


"Our budget is basically designed to reinforce the new missions we are talking about and that agile, deployable and ready force that has to move quickly," said Mr Panetta.


He said he had spoken to European allies about the changes, but did not give a timescale for the withdrawals.


The US currently has four combat brigades stationed in Europe - three in Germany and the fourth in Italy. Each brigade has about 4,000 members. The troops have regularly been deployed from Europe to combat duties in Iraq or Afghanistan.



I wonder how this will work out.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Wow they wont have their familys anymore?

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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That's pretty crappy.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Meh, not a big deal. They already do this in other parts of the world. Korea comes to mind (I'm aware it's not universal - stay with me here): my Dad spent the first 4 years of my life TDY to Korea. (Gone for 6 - 9 months, home for 1 - 2 then back).

It does take away one of the few things that is truly great about being a military family though.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Korea's been the same way. The upside, other than savings, is that you only stay in country for a year. The downside is that you only stay in country for a year.

The better solution is to GTFO of Europe. We were working on doing this up until about 11 years ago....

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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The US should just remove all troops from Europe. The EU doesnt need supervision anymore. Its totally recovered from WW2

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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We have strategic bases in Europe that can't be abandoned.

However, a huge reduction in troops and bases is warranted.

Thinking about this some, I'm actually wondering where the cost savings come in. We already don't have enough military housing for families stateside.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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The US cant afford to be so warlike anymore. Its madness.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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I assume the savings will come in part for not having to ship families and goods back and forth across the Atlantic. I'm not sure if there will be substantial savings from the difference in paycheck bumps that totally enhance the income for being overseas vs. the bump in paychecks for being TDY for a year at a time. I'm also not sure how much the fed subsidizes AAFES and other businesses that operate on post and how that might translate into more savings when they are shut down.


I'm not sure how badly it will suck as I never went to Korea, but I did spend a year in Germany and also a year TDY in Europe. Both experiences were pretty cool in general, but I was a single soldier with no debt so others might have different thoughts about it all.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Uh, you kinda forgot housing allotments, meals, maintaining housing on post, chartering DOD schools and probably several other expenses associated with keeping families overseas. It's a lot more than just the cost of shipping them there and back (though some of these expenses would still be incurred by families stateside, some wouldn't and nearly all of them would be cheaper to run stateside).

 

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