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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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AzureTyger posted:
and no morally worse than other firebombings and civilian massacres.
Well, sort of. I don't think there was anything inherently worse in using an atom bomb instead of massacring civilians some other way.
The worse thing about it was it was pretty much pointless. Killing civilians is always a bad thing but killing civilians when the enemy is already clearly beaten just to make them surrender faster is worse than firebombing a city in the middle of a war even if both are bad.
Sorta like how there's nothing really different between kicking someone and punching them, but kicking someone while they're down and already clearly beaten is worse.
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__Bonk__  Posts: 5,122
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It is just as bad as the firebombing of Japanese cities and teh terror bombing of German cities. Its just two bombs vs thousands. The end result is the same. War crimes all
The war was full of war crimes on all sides. That doesnt make it right though
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Koneg  Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The worse thing about it was it was pretty much pointless. Killing civilians is always a bad thing but killing civilians when the enemy is already clearly beaten just to make them surrender at all
Fixed that for you.
As a reminder, the Japanese were asked to surrender after the first bomb dropped, and specifically told that if they refused we would drop another one.
They still refused to surrender.
Derp?
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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If we were to take out kings instead of killing the pawns it would save a lot of lives and might even be a lesson for the next king.
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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The japanese fought a vile and evil campaign and the people at home cheered while they did it. I have no problem with using the bomb. plus it had the added bonus of letting people know not to eff with us.
I am shocked to learn that truman wasn't a liberal though.
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__Bonk__ Posts: 5,122
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Truman wasnt really a liberal and Lincoln really was. Liberals like to try to rewrite history
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Onslaught. Title: I've always wanted a title.
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Registered: 2001-2-13 13:46:37
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Truman wasn't a liberal compared to FDR, that's for certain. heh
That's a pretty tall order, though. LOL
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Well, as I mentioned, I'm not an expert on Truman. I think he was good on civil rights but he also called in the military to bust a union. What did he do that makes you guys so convinced he's a liberal? I can be persuaded.
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Z-Elder Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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They dropped the bomb a week before Truman's meeting with Hitler and Stalin. They rushed to get THEM ready. Hiroshima was hit with a Uranium bomb. The Plutonium bomb had to be tested and shown to Stalin too.
So the question is, did they save most of Europe from Stalin, at a cost of 250,000 Japanese? Did the EU say thank you?
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
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Just did a quick google. I knew there was some reason I didn't consider Truman a liberal. Well, he instituted loyalty oaths for all Federal employees. The House UnAmerican Activities Committee also really took off on his watch. That sends the needle moving right, again.
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