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Author Topic: Should police be able to show up at your door with a drug sniffing dog and no evidence? [Locked]
vn_nnanji  4 stars
Title: Outpost Music Expert
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
It's always funny when OP know it alls argue law with a lawyer.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Dog sniffs are different. The court said that like 50 years ago. They don't count as a search, period. Kyllo was all about technology.

Unless they revisit that holding it's fine. You can do whatever you want with a dog, assuming you're lawfully in the place.
Walker_ID  3 stars
Posts: 673
Registered: 2002-5-29 10:20:09
Yukishiro1 posted:

Dog sniffs are different. The court said that like 50 years ago. They don't count as a search, period.



i've heard people say that and i'm not disputing it but i haven't seen the case where that was decided


Yukishiro1 posted:

Unless they revisit that holding it's fine. You can do whatever you want with a dog, assuming you're lawfully in the place.



fortunately this case is revisiting this

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Walker_ID posted:

__Bonk__ posted:

They need a search warrant!

I would demand it if they showed up at my place





if i ever decide to own my own home it will be fenced...even the driveway....they will not be able to enter my property



If you think that's going accomplish anything you're in for a rude surprise.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
Dogs can be easily manipulated into giving signals that capricious enforcers of law want. And those same capricious enforcers of law can just claim that they got a signal from a creature that can not be cross examined or held to legal account for its actions...

The court will revisit this dynamic.
eodoll  4 stars
Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
Obama will make a law that drug dealers are linked with terrorism and this will give police all the rights they need to break into your house and do whatever they want.
Mag-Galahad  1 star
Posts: 72
Registered: 2002-2-26 22:26:05
Yukishiro1 posted:

I don't really see what's wrong with it. The cop is allowed to go knock on your door and ask you a question just like anyone else is allowed to come up and knock on your door. Why he can't bring a dog with him I don't really know.



There's nothing wrong with it if the dog is only there as protection of the cop. But that wasnt the case; the dog was there being used as an investigative tool while on the property of the home owner. In order for him to use that dog as it is intended - a drug sniffer - he needed a warrant to be there.

 

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Elkad  2 stars
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Posts: 407
Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
When the cop comes through my gate, he's trespassing. If he gets to the front door and knocks, he's still trespassing. Now I may decide to let him slide on that, but that is MY choice.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Elkad posted:

When the cop comes through my gate, he's trespassing. If he gets to the front door and knocks, he's still trespassing. Now I may decide to let him slide on that, but that is MY choice.



That's not how the law works. Unless your gate is locked.
eodoll  4 stars
Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
I seem to remember stories of the DEA using infrared equipment from helicopters to detect growing operations (the heat from all the grow lamps). If that was legal then this is too.

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