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theredkay1  Posts: 611
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Rand Paul offers amendment to Stock Act: If you become a lobbyist, give up your congress benefits |
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There is a market for labor. Rand Paul wants to create financial penalties for certain movements in the labor market. The market does not see the need to penalize this group of people for moving around the labor market but Rand Paul wants it anyway.
The cost of changing jobs is increased for certain individuals. This raises the cost for employers or leads to suboptimal hiring choices. Raising the cost of new employees and increasing the liklihood of less qualified job hires is certainly a government imposition on the labor market.
Its just nice to see the right drop their pretend worship of the 'free market gods' and admit that sometimes direct government intervention into the market will improve the outcome. This is a very basic principle but a large group of people likes to pretend they dont believe it.
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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
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paulg_68 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
The money we're talking about is completely insignificant compared to the damage that having former congresspeople lobbying their colleagues does to the country.
So all lobbying of this sort is bad? If the teachers union employs former congress people to lobby, you oppose that?
Sure. To the same extent I oppose a corporation doing it.
Although what I'm talking about isn't necessarily just generic lobbying but more the "have your former colleague take you out to dinner" sort of stuff.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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rekday posted:
People on the government payroll working with government is the free market.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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theredkay1 posted:
Its just nice to see the right drop their pretend worship of the 'free market gods' and admit that sometimes direct government intervention into the market will improve the outcome. This is a very basic principle but a large group of people likes to pretend they dont believe it.
Yeah, although that's sorta a straw man. Even most hardcore libertarians believe in antitrust legislation, for example.
Paul is, as usual, doing a miserable job of defending his positions, but I'm not sure they're necessarily anti-libertarian.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Sure. To the same extent I oppose a corporation doing it.
Not to the same extent, but it's good to see you acknowledging that they are equivalent.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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paulg_68 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Sure. To the same extent I oppose a corporation doing it.
Not to the same extent, but it's good to see you acknowledging that they are equivalent.
wut
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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The people who treat the free market like a religion are 1% of fiscal conservatives and 90% of libtards.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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Yukishiro1 posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Sure. To the same extent I oppose a corporation doing it.
Not to the same extent, but it's good to see you acknowledging that they are equivalent.
wut
You will quietly acknowledge that a thing is bad when your side does it, but you will actively call it out when the other side does it.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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You're just frustrated I refused to be drawn out by your stupid partisan attack and can't gracefully admit defeat.  |
theredkay1 Posts: 611
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Rand Paul offers amendment to Stock Act: If you become a lobbyist, give up your congress benefits |
Yukishiro1 posted:
theredkay1 posted:
Its just nice to see the right drop their pretend worship of the 'free market gods' and admit that sometimes direct government intervention into the market will improve the outcome. This is a very basic principle but a large group of people likes to pretend they dont believe it.
Yeah, although that's sorta a straw man. Even most hardcore libertarians believe in antitrust legislation, for example.
Thats true, I didnt mean to imply this was the only time they have let the mask slip.
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