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Taliesihne  Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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I guess Protestants aren't Christians either, considering what Martin Luther did.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Uh, Catholicism is the oldest organized form of Christianity.
considering it didnt really get organised till about 500 years after christ, sure, ill agree with that statement.
and also considering any opposition to catholicism was murdered, banished, and burned at the stake for being heretics once the catholics took power, there are no other organised forms of christianity to compete for that title
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Uh, Catholicism is the oldest organized form of Christianity.
That's an interesting claim when almost all the founding fathers of the church were more active in the area that became the Orthodox church after the schism...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church
If I'm wrong blame wiki.
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Kjarhall  Title: The Pungent One
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Taliesihne posted:
I guess Protestants aren't Christians either, considering what Martin Luther did.
Yeah, it was 1000 years later. Surely the statute of limitations on new sects of Christianity had run out by then. Or maybe it conveniently expired just before Mormonism was born.
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Uh, Catholicism is the oldest organized form of Christianity.
That's an interesting claim when almost all the founding fathers of the church were more active in the area that became the Orthodox church after the schism...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Catholic_Church
If I'm wrong blame wiki.
ok, so it was almost 400 years after christ
wiki posted:
In 313, the struggles of the Early Church were lessened by the legalisation of Christianity by the Emperor Constantine I. In 380, Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire by the decree of the Emperor, which would persist until the fall of the Western Empire, and later, with the Eastern Roman Empire, until the Fall of Constantinople. During this time (the period of the Seven Ecumenical Councils) there were considered five primary sees according to Eusebius: Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem and Alexandria, known as the Pentarchy.
before constantine there were as many different versions of christianity as there are fish in the seas.
constantine decreed that they stop bickering and sit down to come up with one solid form that all christians would agree on.
they invented easter and christmas to help ease the pagans conversion to christianity as well as the idea of jesus being the son of god (insert pagan diety here).
arianism was the major opposition to christianity but was chased out after the council of nice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Arians were one variety of Christians. Just like monophysites and trinitarians. The trinitarians won but that doesn't mean the others weren't Christian, they just ended up on the losing end of a sectarian battle.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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I thought Mormonism was built off of Judaism Christianity and their new stuff. If anything it is a mutation of a religion like Christianity was an mutation of Judaism.
The Protestant Reformation was more of a big theological debate within a religion. More similar to reformed Jews versus Orthodox Jews than Christian to Jewish.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Kjarhall posted:
Taliesihne posted:
I guess Protestants aren't Christians either, considering what Martin Luther did.
Yeah, it was 1000 years later. Surely the statute of limitations on new sects of Christianity had run out by then. Or maybe it conveniently expired just before Mormonism was born.
He also changed the bible.
18 books if I remember right.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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IMHO posted:
GrilledCheez posted:
hahah it's funny because you don't realize you are stupid.
His ignorance just enhances his belief that he is smart.
No really by all means, how am I stupid or ignorant in regards to this topic?
How does knowing the definition of a word making me stupid and ignorant... Walk me through this one, please.
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The difference between the Reformation and Mormonism is that people like Luther, Calvin, et al didn't change fundamental beliefs. They criticized practices that were un-Biblical that the RC church was pushing. Mormonism has a very different set of beliefs which differ greatly from denominations which we would identify as Christian. Those beliefs and doctrines are what separate it from Christianity as a whole, and the LDS church's claims that it is a restoration of early Christianity don't stand up to criticism by historians and Biblical scholars. It simply is a different church, which was kind of Joseph Smith's point in organizing it since he said he was told in a vision that none of the churches on the earth were correct. The date is only relevant as it pertains to how far removed it was from the origins of Christianity and the claims the church makes as to it being a restoration of the original pattern of practices and beliefs.
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