Eithne_Boadicea posted:
You are seriously delusional if you think that I am a bigot for saying Mormonism isn't Christian. I don't hate Mormons. I've had some very good friends who were LDS and I didn't let our differing beliefs get in the way of that. They can live as they feel is right, this is a country where everyone is free to do just that, and I wouldn't have it any other way. But what they believe is different, and if they were to walk into any other Christian denomination's Sunday service they would experience culture shock from hearing the sermon/homily/lesson/etc.
Hell, even wikipedia knows what I'm talking about.
Mormons are not monotheistic; they are polytheistic.
They add other scriptures, written in the 1800s, to their canon and go beyond the canonical gospels and other NT writings.
Mormons believe that Jesus is not God but a separate being altogether, one who was conceived in the literal sense of God the Father having sex with Mary; this works for them because they believe that God is merely an exalted man who followed Mormon doctrine on his planet and progressed to godhood.
Mormons reject Christian creeds as abominations, as quoted by their founder, Joseph Smith, earlier.
Salvation for Mormons is not based upon belief but upon belief + good works, which is fundamentally different.
The Mormon gospel is not the "good news" of Jesus' ministry but rather a set of rules and covenants by which believers must abide in order to exalted in the afterlife.
Also, read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism#Relation_to_Christianity
HTH
Just out of curiosity - would you call me a bigot for noticing that an African American has darker skin than me since my ancestry is primarily Eastern/northern European? Or that men generally have greater physical strength than women? Or that fat people occupy more space than skinny people?
You are seriously delusional if you think that I am a bigot for saying Mormonism isn't Christian. I don't hate Mormons. I've had some very good friends who were LDS and I didn't let our differing beliefs get in the way of that. They can live as they feel is right, this is a country where everyone is free to do just that, and I wouldn't have it any other way. But what they believe is different, and if they were to walk into any other Christian denomination's Sunday service they would experience culture shock from hearing the sermon/homily/lesson/etc.
Hell, even wikipedia knows what I'm talking about.
Quote:
Christianity (from the Ancient Greek word ???st??, Khristos, "Christ", literally "anointed one"
is a monotheistic religion[1] based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.[2] Adherents of the Christian faith are known as Christians.[3]
Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God, God having become human and the saviour of humanity.
Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, referred to as the "Old Testament" in Christianity. The foundation of Christian theology is expressed in the early Christian ecumenical creeds which contain claims predominantly accepted by followers of the Christian faith.[14] These professions state that Jesus suffered, died, was buried, and was resurrected from the dead in order to grant eternal life to those who believe in him and trust him for the remission of their sins (salvation).[15] They further maintain that Jesus bodily ascended into heaven where he rules and reigns with God the Father. Most denominations teach that Jesus will return to judge all humans, living and dead, and grant eternal life to his followers.[16] He is considered the model of a virtuous life, and both the revealer and physical incarnation of God.[17] Christians call the message of Jesus Christ the Gospel ("good news" and hence refer to the earliest written accounts of his ministry as gospels.
Christianity (from the Ancient Greek word ???st??, Khristos, "Christ", literally "anointed one"
is a monotheistic religion[1] based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.[2] Adherents of the Christian faith are known as Christians.[3]Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God, God having become human and the saviour of humanity.
Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, referred to as the "Old Testament" in Christianity. The foundation of Christian theology is expressed in the early Christian ecumenical creeds which contain claims predominantly accepted by followers of the Christian faith.[14] These professions state that Jesus suffered, died, was buried, and was resurrected from the dead in order to grant eternal life to those who believe in him and trust him for the remission of their sins (salvation).[15] They further maintain that Jesus bodily ascended into heaven where he rules and reigns with God the Father. Most denominations teach that Jesus will return to judge all humans, living and dead, and grant eternal life to his followers.[16] He is considered the model of a virtuous life, and both the revealer and physical incarnation of God.[17] Christians call the message of Jesus Christ the Gospel ("good news"
and hence refer to the earliest written accounts of his ministry as gospels.Mormons are not monotheistic; they are polytheistic.
They add other scriptures, written in the 1800s, to their canon and go beyond the canonical gospels and other NT writings.
Mormons believe that Jesus is not God but a separate being altogether, one who was conceived in the literal sense of God the Father having sex with Mary; this works for them because they believe that God is merely an exalted man who followed Mormon doctrine on his planet and progressed to godhood.
Mormons reject Christian creeds as abominations, as quoted by their founder, Joseph Smith, earlier.
Salvation for Mormons is not based upon belief but upon belief + good works, which is fundamentally different.
The Mormon gospel is not the "good news" of Jesus' ministry but rather a set of rules and covenants by which believers must abide in order to exalted in the afterlife.
Also, read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism#Relation_to_Christianity
HTH
Just out of curiosity - would you call me a bigot for noticing that an African American has darker skin than me since my ancestry is primarily Eastern/northern European? Or that men generally have greater physical strength than women? Or that fat people occupy more space than skinny people?
They say they are Christians, they follow a version of Christianity = they are Christians.
By your own logic you're not a Christian yourself because the Pope would say otherwise, because you don't kow-tow to the right interpretation of the bible. Mormons have the right to call themselves Christians as much as you do or the Catholics do.
This discussion is in no way applicable to discussing matters of skin color, it's simply ideology and written words and interpretation. The only thing coming close is you claiming that Jews are not humans, and they claim to be human but you cite your narrow interpretation of scripture that say they're not and should not be members of your club.
so you're a bigot. What you say matters little.. They see themselves as Christians which they are, last time I checked you don't have God or Jesus on speed dial so he can clear this up for you, then again this is the kind of narrow minded thinking I come to expect from overly religious people.
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