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imaloon1  3 stars
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The problem is that a long time ago sovereign currency gave way to fiat currency.


Anything else is just window dressing on a failed argument

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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imaloon1 posted:

The problem is that a long time ago sovereign currency gave way to fiat currency.


Anything else is just window dressing on a failed argument



There is a history of problems associated with gold backed currencies as well. One of the most powerful weapons at the disposal of Europe during the age of imperialism was mercantilism.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Without electricity there can be no electrocutions. Back to the stone ages!


FACT!






"I am terrified of debt" just isnt the winning argument against debt that you think it is.
Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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There's no sane stance you can take which denies my factual statement.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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theredkay1 posted:

Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Without electricity there can be no electrocutions. Back to the stone ages!


FACT!






"I am terrified of debt" just isnt the winning argument against debt that you think it is.



 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

There's no sane stance you can take which denies my factual statement.



Therefore...

you guys are...

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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The only factual statement you presented was meaningless drivel.


The factual nature of the statement was never in question.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

There's no sane stance you can take which denies my factual statement.



Nobody is denying it.


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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Crippling oneself and one's people with ongoing massive debt -- beyond short-term debt which you can easily rotate in 1-3 years -- is a self-destructive choice.

Water and air are not choices.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Crippling oneself and one's people with ongoing massive debt -- beyond short-term debt which you can easily rotate in 1-3 years -- is a self-destructive choice.


Water and air are not choices.



Your post stinks of circular logic and emo BS but you can try and save it by backing up your claim with specific mention of the 1-3 year rule.


As for the Eurozone crisis, I don't see how debt or social programs are the driver. To be clear I am arguing that debt is a major issue in the Eurozone but it is not a simple calculation of government debt but the nation's capital flow balance and how that impacts their production.


Spain has a lot of debt by the way but it isn't driven by government debt but private debt. Imagine that.

 

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