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Bowlartz  Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
That would have actually required thinking up a good reason to defund hundreds of other organizations. which would have been a whole new shitstorm. But nice try Bowlartz.
I am not really quite sure what is so difficult about a charity that is 100% identified with breast cancer to the general public simply giving all its money to...breast cancer research and direct treatment. Simple, easy...makes the entire issue go away. Planned Parenthood is in no way needed to provide cancer treatment for the poor...in fact odds are a solid chunk of the money given them is lost to a secondary layer of administration.
Who would have had a leg to stand on if they had made that announcement?
"We demand you keep giving charity X money, those women can go die of breast cancer for all we care!!".
Yea, that would have been a good position to take.
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Rhint  Posts: 268
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paulg_68 posted:
Institutions that receive government funding shouldn't provide abortions.
If you think their work is important, then split them up into two separate organizations.
While I see your point, and agree with it on some levels, it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.
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paulg_68  Posts: 2,469
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Tax dollars are used to fund abortions. The people at Planned Parenthood play accounting games and pretend that isn't the fact, but it is the fact.
Pro lifers are not fooled. They want it stopped.
So then Planned Parenthood plays accounting games and pretends like pro lifers are trying to defund cancer testing.
Pro lifers are still not fooled. Only Obrien is fooled.
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Sea of Ink, you've missed a lot. I wouldn't trust them to not try to pull this again in the future. and there are better charities that are more reliable and send more of their cash to actually doing the work.
Bowlartz, they specifically cut off planned parenthood, while giving money to other orgs that do exactly what PP does. They've never been donating exclusively to orgs that deal with research, and sorry screenings are direct treatment.
And your dual layers of adminstration argument is bullcrap. Why give to the komen foundation at all and why not give directly to Research and treatment centers. That cuts out a layer of admin costs.
PP provides all sorts of medical services to low income areas. Anyone who cares about health issues supports planned parenthood.
Paul you're making the money is fungible argument eh?
If you're consistent with that principle than every single religious charity should never receive federal grants because seperation of church and state.
And if you're using that standard you'd also have to defund hundreds of hospitals around the country.. blah blah. That argument is madness.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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I had no idea before this that PP even performed mammograms and other cancer detection services for women, let alone that they were funded by Komen. I also learned that a close friend of mine from high school received a Planned Parenthood breast exam in 2000 and caught a tumor in its early stages, saving her from a mastectomy or worse.
I don't disagree with Komen providing the funds, but I do think that Planned Parenthood has allowed their mission to go beyond their original charter. Whether that's so that they can get more money for abortions or if it's just due to inept managers who are convinced that they must expand to improve, I really don't know. I'm grateful they're doing what they're doing, but I'd be more comfortable if they'd spin off women's health issues that are not involved with family planning into another nonprofit.
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Why the hell wouldn't Planned Parenthood be involved with breast cancer screening?
I mean its awful that people can go to one place and get multiple health services. Inefficiency in health care is good!
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Remnant_OBrien posted:
Why the hell wouldn't Planned Parenthood be involved with breast cancer screening?
I mean its awful that people can go to one place and get multiple health services. Inefficiency in health care is good!
Because it has nothing to do with planning parenthood? I would think that's kind of obvious.
Your justification of efficiency is pretty dumb, even for you. How many women roll in one day and decide to get a mammogram and an abortion?
Like I said, I'm glad they're doing it, but it's certainly not what people think they're doing. If they want to be a one-stop-shop, they should consider changing the name to something more descriptive of being a free women's clinic.
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Bewbs have nothing to do with rearing children  
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Oh i always forget that breasts have nothing to do with reproductive health.
And you keep on talking about abortions.. something wrong with your head?
Was your friend getting an abortion when she got her breast exam?
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Lucky these poor ladies have remnant fighting for them
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