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Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
In order to get welfare benefits, you have to prove who you are and depending on the state, submit to finger printing and a photo. They end up giving the person an ID card based on this process. Obviously the state doesn't charge to get this card.

In New York non driver ID fees are as follows:

Currently $9 to $10 for the 4 to 5 year ID
$13 to $14 for the 8 to 9 year ID
$6.50 for the 10 year ID issued to seniors over 62 and for those under 62 but receiving social security.


So spare me the tears that ID costs are prohibitive. And you don't need a national ID card which I would be adamantly opposed to anyway.
Thugoneous  4 stars
Title: Watching Caliente, BRB.
Posts: 1,128
Registered: 2002-11-2 18:00:54
I'm not in the business of explaining the obvious Groucho. If you want to put your head in the sand on this I'm okay with that.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Aerlinthian posted:

In order to get welfare benefits, you have to prove who you are and depending on the state, submit to finger printing and a photo. They end up giving the person an ID card based on this process. Obviously the state doesn't charge to get this card.

In New York non driver ID fees are as follows:

Currently $9 to $10 for the 4 to 5 year ID
$13 to $14 for the 8 to 9 year ID
$6.50 for the 10 year ID issued to seniors over 62 and for those under 62 but receiving social security.


So spare me the tears that ID costs are prohibitive. And you don't need a national ID card which I would be adamantly opposed to anyway.



Any cost is too much. I thought the whole idea behind people being against subsidies was that it was an incentive to do poorly. Why should we tax/charge/discourage voting? Our population does not vote enough as it is.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
So, you guys got nothing.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Why work? We don't have to. We are going to win anyways.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
Tych2 posted:

Why work? We don't have to. We are going to win anyways.



Another way of saying you have nothing.

And, while bills have passed in several Republican controlled states, they have failed in others. So, it isn't exactly an inevitable tide. It might become more so if you had any reality-based reason for the requirement.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Groucho48 posted:

Tych2 posted:

Why work? We don't have to. We are going to win anyways.



Another way of saying you have nothing.

You've said that twice now and I'll repeat a second time if that is your take thats cool with me.


Groucho48 posted:

And, while bills have passed in several Republican controlled states, they have failed in others. So, it isn't exactly an inevitable tide. It might become more so if you had any reality-based reason for the requirement.

And as I said just like gay marriage, we will prevail. We will drag you into the 21st century kicking and screaming if we must.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Groucho48 posted:

He says he is Groucho48 and the little old lady who has been watching me vote for 15 years says...oh no you are not and he is arrested on a felony charge


You seriously are advocating visual ID as sufficient? Maybe this works well in beaver cleaver ville or where ever you are, but in reality its failcakes.

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
Posts: 643
Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
I am not sure why this is such a hot button issue with Dems specifically.

A fail safe to make sure local, state and federal elections are being kept "clean".

Why is that so bad?

It sounds like a progressive thing to do.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
I'm only against it because elections should be free and fair.

 

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