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SoBaKi  Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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paulg_68 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
Obama is a center right President.
I'm guessing you can't come up with an example of something fiscally conservative Obama has done either.
And there in lies your problem. You're looking for fiscally conservative/liberal when you should be looking for fiscally responsible.
Being fiscally conservative/liberal doesn't mean much anymore.
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DemonicXH  Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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paulg_68  Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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SoBaKi posted:
And there in lies your problem. You're looking for fiscally conservative/liberal when you should be looking for fiscally responsible.
Being fiscally conservative/liberal doesn't mean much anymore.
Let me guess, you define fiscally responsible as being someone who spends tons of money and massively raises taxes.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Rosaria posted:
Kjarhall posted:
Think about all the topics covered right here at the Outpost. It's a microcosm of the difference.
Most of them are bullshit feel good topics that have nothing do with where is the money coming from, where is the money going in exchange for what, what kind of risks will we encounter, and fiscally what could we anticipate five years from now. Every important single topic we discuss skirts the main issues along party lines with lots of namecalling if you don't think one way or the other. I enjoy the Outpost a great deal but the bullshit factor is high. If you're saying American politics is based on bullshit then yeah I agree.
Pretty much, and i'm saying that the bullshit is a bit different on each side.
I get that on important topics, such as economic/tax/spend policies, the two sides ideologies aren't as far apart as they claim to be. But there are still significant differences between the two, especially on social issues.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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And you define "fiscally conservative" as whatever you want in each particular thread despite the fact that basically no conservative politicians meet your definition.  |
paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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Kjarhall posted:
But there are still significant differences between the two, especially on social issues.
Myth. Both parties have recently had both houses of Congress and the Whitehouse.
What changed?
Almost nothing. Certainly nothing significant.
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Akza Posts: 271
Registered: 2002-9-8 18:02:25
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paulg_68 posted:
SoBaKi posted:
And there in lies your problem. You're looking for fiscally conservative/liberal when you should be looking for fiscally responsible.
Being fiscally conservative/liberal doesn't mean much anymore.
Let me guess, you define fiscally responsible as being someone who spends tons of money and massively raises taxes.
None of them are fiscally responsible. Even Obama isn't.
Sorry but you're not going to get this country towards being healthier fiscally unless you raise taxes. Even a 5% jump in taxes would put us on par with Canada.
This country would be a lot healthier fiscally as well if the military industrial complex got toned down.
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theredkay1 Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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paulg_68 posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Can you identify a single fiscally conservative thing Obama has ever done?
theredkay1 posted:
Define fiscally conservative.
No.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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Yukishiro1 posted:
And you define "fiscally conservative" as whatever you want in each particular thread despite the fact that basically no conservative politicians meet your definition.
Redkay and Groucho are saying Obama is fiscally conservative. They cannot provide a single example because nothing he has ever done fits with any definition of fiscally conservative that they wouldn't be embarrassed to provide.
If I give a definition, they will merely evade the question by attacking my definition. My definition isn't required since I'm not the one saying he is fiscally conservative.
(Edit: @ redkay. He proved me right before I even clicked post.)
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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paulg_68 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
Obama is a center right President.
I'm guessing you can't come up with an example of something fiscally conservative Obama has done either.
Are tax cuts fiscally conservative? Because Obama cut a bunch of taxes and stuff.
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