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dae_trist  4 stars
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For long periods in everything's history everything has been conquered. The difference is that China has remained a united and cohesive polity for centuries, we can't say the same for any European or Arab Dynasty.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Europe was only conquered by the romans and the americans and russians

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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and the Arabs, and the Vikings, and the Habsburgs, and the Macedonians, and the Turks

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Seems like the Chinese did ok during the Korean conflict.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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The arabs, turks, mongols, and the rest never conquered europe. People here are stupid

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Uh the Tang dynasty was always having to pay off central asian folks.


Chinese armies have traditionally been well equipped but criminally mismanaged, especially when led by Chinese generals (who were often untrained courtiers). Their best armies tended to be lead by foreigners (usually central asians) and made up of a core of foreigners.
dae_trist  4 stars
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__Bonk__ posted:

The arabs, turks, mongols, and the rest never conquered europe. People here are stupid





They did if you think the Romans did. If you're retarded enough to mention Russia and America, then yeah I think everything I said flies.

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Uh the Tang dynasty was always having to pay off central asian folks.

Chinese armies have traditionally been well equipped but criminally mismanaged, especially when led by Chinese generals (who were often untrained courtiers). Their best armies tended to be lead by foreigners (usually central asians) and made up of a core of foreigners.



The Tang Dynasty only had to pay off Central Asians when they were involved in wars on multiple fronts, and their best armies tended to be Chinese, with good representation from foreign elites. The phenomenon of eunuchs meddling in military affairs was something that gradually built up, it was pretty bad during the fall of the Tang but it was not defining until much later.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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So basically China was always getting into too many wars at once and mismanaging its armies and having to pay people off because of it. I.e. not very good at war.


China has traditionally done little with a lot when it comes to war.
dae_trist  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
No, China was just unlucky enough to be surrounded by regions that always had some kind of steppe nomad confederation on it. Mismanagement comes with every power in history. I may not be an expert on this, but I'm pretty sure you are just regurgitating. The history of China in the West is just vast, sweeping generalizations and idiotic epithets.

China's real problem is that it's bad at genocide and terrorism.

 

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