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Author Topic: New Report states that Rumsfeld wanted to close Gitmo [Locked]
Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
Posts: 469
Registered: 2002-5-11 05:11:16
Your ignorance and stupidity is spectacular.


MSNBC posted:

WASHINGTON — In a rare, bipartisan defeat for President Barack Obama, the Senate voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay open for the foreseeable future and forbid the transfer of any detainees to facilities in the United States.



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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Say just a few posts earlier you were heralding Obama's signature to close Gitmo.
Then I said Gitmo remains open, noob.
and then you counter with: "but but but.. "

Gitmo remains open. Obama lied and liberals cried!

 

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Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
Posts: 469
Registered: 2002-5-11 05:11:16
Moe_Nox posted:

Because he did not want the military to waste time being jailers. Obama continues to keep Gitmo open. AWKWARD
AzureTyger  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-1 15:49:04
You got owned Moe, stop being a retart.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
ZigmundZag posted:

I think most politicians would like to close it. The reality of the situation has proven that none of them have the cajones to do so.



Give them military trials or let them go! If they commit crimes when let go then kill them in the battlefield

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
I missed AT thinking that Gitmo is closed as well.
"yeah yeah its not closed yet, but Obama so really wishes that maybe he could close it some how. Some way!"

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
1) Obama is against jailing enemy combatants so instead of capturing and holding them without trial indefinitely, he's shifted policy to just outright killing them. This is reflected in his attempts to close Gitmo, his drastic increase of the drone programs, his emphasis on Special Forces (Biden's pet strategy), the execution of the Pirate Hostage takers, the execution of bin Laden.

2) When he came into office he was adamantly opposed to Gitmo remaining open. He either was unable to close it, or he changed his mind.

If he was unable to close it, this is not the fault of Obama. People against Gitmo were still right to vote for him. He championed the cause the best he could but was thwarted. We don't have kings in America, so if it's an issue you feel strongly about, you should vote accordingly, not just for President but for Congress as well.

If he changed his mind, that tells me something about the issue, not Obama. It seems like he took a politically weaker stance by not closing it down because it pisses off his base and arms his opponents with claims of his impotence. So I don't think he was motivated by politics to change his mind. What, then? I'm guessing it would probably be that he's privy to information he hadn't had before he took office.

So for me, who doesn't have much stock in Gitmo closing, it makes sense that we should be shutting it down, but only after it's feasible. I'd rather suffer "moral" harm to the country than physical.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
Obama doesnt have the balls to close it. Release them and then close them realizing many of them will fight hte US and its allies again. To do the right thing is often tough

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Oh wow, that's really dumb and on a list of "Right Things To Do" shows up somewhere between putting your computer in the microwave and summoning the dark lord because, hey, it's 2012.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
Well now that the government can just disappear and murder Americans when it wants to, having Gitmo is probably redundant.

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