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RHWarrior  3 stars
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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
paulg_68 posted:

Democrats had the House, Senate, and Whitehouse. If there was ever a right time that was it.

They didn't pass it.

Thank goodness Democrats haven't been able to completely stamp out states rights or we wouldn't be making any progress at all.

Are you embarrassed Groucho that you have argued that states rights were a power only to be used for ebil?





I have stated many times that the only importance the issue of states rights has to me is it is yet another tool to mock right wing hypocrites with. It is right wingers who make states rights one of the foundations of their political philosophy, so, naturally enough, I enjoy pointing out all the times they impose federal statues to violate the concept of states rights. Like, say, the Defense of Marriage Act.

All things being equal, the concept of 50 state all trying different things and the country as a whole progressing from their different experiences, is an attractive one. But, it doesn't work that way in the real world. States rights are generally used by right wingers to deny individual rights. In those cases, I think the Feds need to step in and protect individual rights. With gay marriage, you are correct in that the concept of states rights is actually being used, by Democrats, to advance individual rights.

I would order things this way:

Individual rights
Federal rights
States rights

Right wingers generally order them in the way that favors the few over the many. Sometimes that is states rights first, sometimes it is federal rights first. Whichever serves best to curtail individual rights.

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
I like this issue. because conservatives are so wrong about it I can even agree with normally stupid liberals about it.

Ahhh

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-10-18 12:57:37
paulg_68 posted:





Please don't ever wonder why you get called a RWN, ideologue, or partisan.

 

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_Enkidu_  2 stars
Title: Zen Badger
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
The really funny part of all of this is how little making same sex marriages legal is going to matter.


Except for the whole spreading the pain thing, but if I can take it, I imagine the gays can, too.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
_Enkidu_ posted:

The funny part of all this is making same sex marriages legal. Except for the whole spreading the pain thing, but I can take it.


You have just earned Sobaki as your stalker.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

_Enkidu_ posted:

The funny part of all this is making same sex marriages legal. Except for the whole spreading the pain thing, but I can take it.



You have just earned Sobaki as your stalker.



I obviously have my own stalker.

 

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_Enkidu_  2 stars
Title: Zen Badger
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Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
Weird how moe-nox editted my post like, wtf?

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
I added zero words!

 

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