So apparently the Obama administration is pushing for “comprehensive” tax reform which is meant to address both the corporate tax and the income tax. The problem is they really only proposed an income tax plan and not a corp tax one.


A rather absurd stance IMO but the goal is definitely a good one. The biggest hurdle to it seems to be Republicans balking at the income tax changes and Democrats balking at the corp tax changes. It is a very important issue IMO and if Obama is a one term President and can walk out with Obamacare and comprehensive tax reform he will go down as a relatively active one term President.

 

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Corp taxes should be non-existant or minimal.

 

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If Obama had put in a reasonable plan for Obamacare instead of what it is, and if he could get truly comprehensive tax reform through, there's no fkn way he'd be a one term president. I'd vote for him and I'd be out there bussing people from wherever the fk I could find them to go and vote for him if he could do both of those things. It seems doubtful that he will overhaul Obamacare and devise a truly comprehensive tax reform plan by November though. At least it seems likely he will have a 2nd term either way to work on those things - or not work on them.

 

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Obamacare is already a massive leap in terms of the standards the US has with regard to healthcare. The standard being that people with pre-existing coverage are not screwed over and that everyone gets insurance.


There is no doubt that the particulars of Obamacare are a mess in large part due to our schizophrenic approach to UHC.

 

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Admittedly, it's a huge leap, but as it is presently designed, I fear it's a leap out of the frying pan into what might just be the fire. They say that "the Devil is in the details", and that's the truth with Obamacare. Again, he gets a nod from me for taking the first big step, but it's still a fkn far walk to the proper outcome.

 

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Agreed but the US is still hung up on fearing UHC.

 

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Yes and that is annoying. I am in favor of it conceptually, but I am not in favor of anything I could imagine coming out of our current government (and by that I don't mean the Obama administration - I mean the entire 21st century manifestation of the United States government).

 

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The US already has layer upon layer of healthcare related government bureaucracy which is mostly problematic because it is a combination of a hundred different top down approaches that have been patched together.


The German system makes the most sense to me but the choice shouldn’t be to opt out of coverage but to supplement it. Which fits with what we already do relatively well.


UHC should be enough to alleviate out moral concerns about providing healthcare. It doesn’t have to be the end of the healthcare discussion. I think that is what people fear most even before concerns with efficiency.

 

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Outposters saying that Obamacare is good is pure revisionist history.

100% of Outposters were in agreement that it was a turd back before this version passed.

 

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I have active bowel movements as well which is what all this legislation is worth imo.

 

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