Fist_de_Yuma posted:
Yes, because the liberals believe that minorities are incapable of getting an ID card. It is either the worse form of racism or the lames excuse for blocking fair and honest elections I have ever heard. It is likely both.
So; do you really believe that minorities are incapable of getting an ID card Groucho48? That they are so weak they must depend on you for everything? This racism from the libreals is getting old. The way to stop racism is to stop being racist. Let's start with you Groucho48. Stop being a racist.
Groucho48 posted:
As usual, the right has to distort what the left thinks. No one is in favor of fraud. We are saying that picture IDs would not prevent the kinds of fraud that actually can influence elections.
I watched the video. Besides showing that the Republican Party is incredibly incompetent and can't even run small primaries properly, could you point out anything that picture IDs would have prevented?
What the video taught me is that Republicans shouldn't be in charge of anything. I've also read that,, in the Nevada contest, it took several recounts to get 14 votes counted properly?
As usual, the right has to distort what the left thinks. No one is in favor of fraud. We are saying that picture IDs would not prevent the kinds of fraud that actually can influence elections.
I watched the video. Besides showing that the Republican Party is incredibly incompetent and can't even run small primaries properly, could you point out anything that picture IDs would have prevented?
What the video taught me is that Republicans shouldn't be in charge of anything. I've also read that,, in the Nevada contest, it took several recounts to get 14 votes counted properly?
Yes, because the liberals believe that minorities are incapable of getting an ID card. It is either the worse form of racism or the lames excuse for blocking fair and honest elections I have ever heard. It is likely both.
So; do you really believe that minorities are incapable of getting an ID card Groucho48? That they are so weak they must depend on you for everything? This racism from the libreals is getting old. The way to stop racism is to stop being racist. Let's start with you Groucho48. Stop being a racist.
Convince me ID cards are needed and I'll be inn favor of them. 5 years of intensive investigations by the Bush DOJ, actual election records for the last few decades, and common sense says that getting hundreds and thousands and hundreds of thousands of voters to vote as someone else is an incredibly stupid and non-existent way of trying to steal an election.
Meanwhile, yes, it DOES make it more difficult to vote. Especially for older folks, poorer folks or folks without a car.
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Thirty-six percent of Georgians over 75 do not have a driver’s license. Fewer than 3 percent of Wisconsin students have driver’s licenses listing their current address. The same study found that African Americans have driver’s licenses at half the rate of whites, and the disparity increases among younger voters; only 22% of black men aged 18-24 had a valid driver’s license.
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In Ohio, a statewide survey found four instances of ineligible persons voting or attempting to vote in 2002 and 20042C out of 9,078,728 votes cast - a rate of 0.00004%. Despite the invocation of fraud as support for the new Georgia law, Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox has stated that she could not recall one documented case of voter fraud relating to the impersonation of a registered voter at the polls during her ten-year tenure as an election official. Nationwide, since October 2002, 86 individuals have been convicted of federal crimes relating to election fraud (including several offenses not remedied by ID requirements), while 196,139,871 ballots have been cast in federal general elections.
Thirty-six percent of Georgians over 75 do not have a driver’s license. Fewer than 3 percent of Wisconsin students have driver’s licenses listing their current address. The same study found that African Americans have driver’s licenses at half the rate of whites, and the disparity increases among younger voters; only 22% of black men aged 18-24 had a valid driver’s license.
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In Ohio, a statewide survey found four instances of ineligible persons voting or attempting to vote in 2002 and 20042C out of 9,078,728 votes cast - a rate of 0.00004%. Despite the invocation of fraud as support for the new Georgia law, Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox has stated that she could not recall one documented case of voter fraud relating to the impersonation of a registered voter at the polls during her ten-year tenure as an election official. Nationwide, since October 2002, 86 individuals have been convicted of federal crimes relating to election fraud (including several offenses not remedied by ID requirements), while 196,139,871 ballots have been cast in federal general elections.
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_voter_identification/
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