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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

It would mostly impact the poor churches in poor areas that are the churches that are most likely doing good work.

That's where most of the fundies come from... Hopefully taxing them would put them out of business.

Win win for society and everyone involved.

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
It should be taxed, any organisation that makes a profit should have to pay taxes.

Why set a different standards just because the merchandise they are peddling is delusion?

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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I don't know PB, that would harm the needy. It would only take away from the poor.

I do think world ministry churches are big business and should be held to strict audits..and books should be public..including wages paid.


Now, here is where i 100% agree with you. In Ohio we have a large population of Amish.

They claim under their religion every household is a church. They pay no taxes. It is a loophole that needs to be closed..but how can this be done without hurting churches in the regular sense?

The Amish are very wealthy here.
Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Halloweve posted:

I don't know PB, that would harm the needy. It would only take away from the poor.
I do think world ministry churches are big business and should be held to strict audits..and books should be public..including wages paid.

Now, here is where i 100% agree with you. In Ohio we have a large population of Amish.
They claim under their religion every household is a church. They pay no taxes. It is a loophole that needs to be closed..but how can this be done without hurting churches in the regular sense?
The Amish are very wealthy here.



Why care if it hurts churches, everyone is equal under the law.. No one is supposed to hide behind some silly notion of holiness or sanctity.

Might as well fund a church of Copyism run it like a business where we actually sell electronic products claiming that it's the medium of how our gospell is transferred and that the sending of code is a holy sacrament, under the current idiocy my church would not have to pay taxes and I could make a shitload of money and start lobbying hardcore for filesharing..

wait that's not a bad idea actually.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
To the extent that churches are really doing charitable things they shouldn't be taxed for doing the charitable things just like other charitable activities are not taxed. There shouldn't be any special treatment simply because they're religious. I do not know how the tax code actually functions in this respect.
ZigmundZag  4 stars
Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
Fundies don't come from small, poor churches. The poorer churches are just as likely to be liberal churches in urban neighborhoods as they are ultra-conservative ones. The dangerous fundies are in the megachurches. They're the ones trying to dictate policy to the government. Take the Mormons, for instance - you remember, the guys who actually managed to get gay marriage defeated in California of all places? Do you really think a church that consists mostly of middle and upper class white people who pay 10% into it would be phased by a property tax?

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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That's right Yuki. Charity is charity. It is important that we share some of what we have for the needy..and it has already been taxed once.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Lots of what churches do really isn't charitable, though. That part of it ought to be taxed.
ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Halloweve posted:

and it has already been taxed once.

In any context, that is the most ridiculous anti-tax argument ever.

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
Why Zig? I feel 100% opposite. It has been fairly taxed.

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