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Sansfear  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-8-31 05:04:52
Rosaria posted:

The plan is for Greece to default and be ejected, or elect to leave, the EU. The EU has spent two years dealing with, and avoiding dealing with, the Greeks. They still have Italy, Spain, and Portugal to work through. They have a time and monetary limited LTRO that has to extend over multiple countries and their banks. Its a Herculean task with or without Greece. It may not feel like it but the rest of the world needs the EU to succeed and be strong. You have to decide if Greece is worth it, both in time intensity and financial cost. The rest of us just have to wait.



And you can be sure that Italy, Spain and Portugal are watching and taking notes to see exactly how Greece is handled so that they can use that info against the EU when it comes their turn in the hot seat.
Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts: 1,674
Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
NuEM posted:

Rosaria posted:

Okay shoot. List some of their assets.



Whatever let them export goods worth 22 billion Euros in 2011. May not be much, but when you can acquire that basically for free?

If it's not that then what is the plan? Are they just being dumb? Quite possible I admit.



Right. Free.

Greece has about €372B in outstanding debt. The deals on the table lately are telling the debt holders to take a SEVENTY PERCENT haircut on that. That means (calculating)... that lousy €22B output (which is probably nothing near that really) would be "free" to the tune of €260B.

So, yeah. Not free. More like > TEN YEARS worth of the country's total exports.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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theredkay1 posted:

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-Espiritu-  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-11-29 18:27:00
theredkay1 posted:

yogurt


old rocks


the most advanced mens hair coloring technology


the end



 

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NuEM  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-2 09:08:11
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Right. Free.

Greece has about €372B in outstanding debt. The deals on the table lately are telling the debt holders to take a SEVENTY PERCENT haircut on that. That means (calculating)... that lousy €22B output (which is probably nothing near that really) would be "free" to the tune of €260B.

So, yeah. Not free. More like > TEN YEARS worth of the country's total exports.



You are under the misleading assumption that's the debt holders who will get that stuff.

 

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