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Ashmaele  4 stars
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This looks like a matter for the courts to resolve if the legislature won't.

What constitutes "fair and just compensation?" Depends on your pov

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
dae_trist posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

It's impossible for private entities to do anything bad



If we had anarchy there's nothing stopping a private military



other militias

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
If you buy a house for 30k and the value is now 300k should the state have to pay 300k or just 30k?


It seems like people want to have their cake and eat it too. If you make a bad investment in a home - especially if you're aware it may get condemned in the future - it seems like blaming the state is the wrong thing to do.


Can you imagine the outrage at a contrary rule? Someone could load up debt on their property when they knew it was going to be condemned and then demand it be paid off.


Also, some of that is a 2nd mortgage. I.e. not something they used to buy the house but for other purposes.
dae_trist  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
Brother_Tempus posted:

dae_trist posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

It's impossible for private entities to do anything bad



If we had anarchy there's nothing stopping a private military



other militias



That's not going to happen. They are just as likely to take part and split the profit.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Yukishiro1 posted:

If you buy a house for 30k and the value is now 300k should the state have to pay 300k or just 30k?

It seems like people want to have their cake and eat it too. If you make a bad investment in a home - especially if you're aware it may get condemned in the future - it seems like blaming the state is the wrong thing to do.

Can you imagine the outrage at a contrary rule? Someone could load up debt on their property when they knew it was going to be condemned and then demand it be paid off.

Also, some of that is a 2nd mortgage. I.e. not something they used to buy the house but for other purposes.



These are all good points.

But it isn't just the homeowner getting screwed. The mortgage company is getting screwed too. So I expect the law to get changed.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Ashmaele posted:

These are all good points.

But it isn't just the homeowner getting screwed. The mortgage company is getting screwed too. So I expect the law to get changed.

The lender also potentially knew this was going to happen as well, if not at the initial purchase, at least by the refinance time.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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But we must not hold the lender responsible for that decision. Tis unamerican!
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SoBaKi posted:

cabbyman posted:

Start a fire.

Claim insurance.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Uh, stop paying the mortgage, let the bank seize the house and it's their problem now.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Uh, stop paying the mortgage, let the bank seize the house and it's their problem now.



Yeah, except that you'll need to live somewhere else and there's no way you're getting another mortage after just having walked away from the last one.


I guess they could go rent somewhere for 7 years or however long it takes to purge that off your credit.

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