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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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GrilledCheez posted:
should: borrow money to go to college, buy new suit for interviews, buy beater to get to job
should not: borrow money on credit cards to pay for luxuries while unemployed hoping things might get better and you can pay them back.
Actually to tie this point in with the inflow of capital point made by K. Spain also had large inflows of capital which resulted in a lot of private debt. The problem was this capital flowed towards housing.
I think that it is worth addressing where the foreign capital inflows are going and what the governments are doing to guide that investment. This includes both the US government and foreign governments.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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theredkay1 posted:
Always left out of these rants is how national accounting works.
If you keep trade deficit and hike taxes, you reduce gov't debt by shifting it to the private sector. Same thing if you slash spending.
No, it always isn't. But it is obfuscated by comments like your own.
In a world of multinational corporations, the center does not hold in your argument.
theredkay1 posted:
Often you see people scream for ... a stronger dollar to blow up the trade deficit. 
You do. But those with oversimplified or disingenuous arguments often try to equate a 'stable dollar' with a 'strong dollar', when in fact these two things are not necessarily the same.
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theredkay1 Posts: 611
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What do you think multinational corporations have to do with national accounting?
How does a basic primer on capital flows and budget deficits confuse the issue?
You do see people confuse levels (strong dollar) with flows (stable dollar). Its not clear what you are saying exactly, maybe you are the one confusing the two here.
A consistent trade deficit should force a lower currency valuation until the trade deficit is eliminated. Thats what floating currencies are supposed to do. A consistent trade deficit implies an overvalued currency. If you want to keep the dollar stable while the market indicates it should be falling, you are arguing for a strong dollar. This is true even if the dollar has been stronger at some point.
I dont think its automatically right or wrong to decide we need a stronger or weaker dollar as long as you recognize the impact. Both positions have plusses and minuses...its just frustrating to see people with strong feelings about the deficit who are prescribing currency policy that counters their preferred deficit policy. All this stuff works together, there is no magic fairy that allows us to ignore the basics of accounting.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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theredkay1 posted:
A consistent trade deficit should force a lower currency valuation until the trade deficit is eliminated. Thats what floating currencies are supposed to do.
And there's where the conversation diverges into a novel, not a board post. And again, you know that. Just like you want to gloss over the whole point about "stable" versus "strong" currency.
You casually say "floating", but what you really mean is "centrally managed and intentionally manipulated fiat for deficit or inflation intervention", not a "stable" or "neutral" currency that naturally values/de-values based on market and trade factors.
The nature of that intervention, particularly for the benchmark world currency that glues together multinational finance and arbitrage, is the topic of entire schools of economics.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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And now that we've entertained your drivel... NONE OF THAT has shite to do with the need to cap and balance the budget on a deliberate schedule under a constitutional mandate.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Damn AA, you have been trying to get this conversation going for awhile now and you have failed hard.
It is hard to watch.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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You're under the impression this is a conversation? Look back at the OP. That's not an inquiry or solicitation of opinion.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Yeah it has been hard to watch from the first post.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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@SoO: Yes this thread has been painful to watch. In fact I commented on that already.
Abaddon posted:
It is an interesting case study how many of you are terrified completely sh*tless about having a government that lives within a limited means. ANY limit. On any time frame.
Extremism, much?
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America will no longer be a super power in fifty years
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