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PackHunter Posts: 47
Registered: 2001-12-20 06:39:10
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Brother_Tempus posted:
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Not sure Amazon would agree with you there skippy...
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Here in Buffalo, we have the City Honors School, which is rated as one of the best schools in the country. Why? Because it can select its students from among the best. It can also select its teachers from among the best, as public schools pay better and offer better benefits.
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poetkiosk  Title: Snail Hunter
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Registered: 2002-3-17 04:37:03
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Groucho48 posted:
Here in Buffalo, we have the City Honors School, which is rated as one of the best schools in the country. Why? Because it can select its students from among the best. It can also select its teachers from among the best, as public schools pay better and offer better benefits.
I think there are some crappy schools out there, but the trick is making everyone accountable. Teachers should be accountable - yep fire those crappy teachers and pay good teachers more - but hold the principals accountable and the parents...and oh did we forget ----- THE STUDENTS!!!!
We have created a culture of insane empowerment. When I was a kid, you wished the damn sister would hit you, because the beating at home was twice as bad if she called. My mother threw a soup can at my face and broke my nose - just saying.
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AzureTyger Title: Awesome
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Registered: 2002-4-1 15:49:04
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In CPS, tenure is granted by administration and firing teachers is mostly a matter of following protocol and documentation. But since most of the administrators here are career morons they don't do either of those jobs well. This is also the teachers union's fault.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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AzureTyger posted:
In CPS, tenure is granted by administration and firing teachers is mostly a matter of following protocol and documentation. But since most of the administrators here are career morons they don't do either of those jobs well. This is also the teachers union's fault.
Standard for a lot of places with unions. people can't get fired on a whim, or to make room for nephew Buddy. There has to be reasons and procedures have to be followed. The procedures are pretty straight forward. For, say, a relatively minor problem like consistent tardiness...there has to be a verbal warning, if that doesn't work, a written warning, if that doesn't work, they can be sent back home without pay if they are late more than, I think, three times in a three month period. If that doesn't work, I think unpaid suspension is next, followed by being fired. The whole process takes maybe a year.
We had several folks who were late all the time, but, they got away with it because supervision wouldn't follow the procedures, the person would file a grievance and the union would come in. The union wasn't necessarily defending the guy's right to be late all the time; they were defending the procedures. Administration would always lose the fight because they always skipped steps. Or, and this was just as common, they would treat folks differently. They'd let folks with really bad records slide and come down on someone who barely met the threshold for being disciplined. If that person could show that the rules weren't being applied evenly, he or she would win the grievance. Overall, I'd say favoritism was the biggest factor in the lack of success administration had with disciplining employees. If administration lets one person be late every other day, then, they can't stop everyone from being late every other day. They only get away with it because the vast majority of folks are good, dedicated workers who don't take advantage.
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Bobvillas Posts: 643
Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
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I went to what is considered the "best" private school in St Louis.
My junior high/middle school years were in public schools.
There was a huge gap between the two.
My children will go to a private school as well.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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__Bonk__ posted:
The parents care enough about their kids education they actually pay for their kids education
We care so much we pay for our kids directly and the kids going through public schools indirectly.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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AzureTyger posted:
In CPS, tenure is granted by administration and firing teachers is mostly a matter of following protocol and documentation. But since most of the administrators here are career morons they don't do either of those jobs well. This is also the teachers union's fault.
You should examine California practices some time
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/03/local/me-teachers3
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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PackHunter posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
The internet
Not sure Amazon would agree with you there skippy...
How so?
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The fact is that their should be a choose. Sadly liberals only believe in one choice to fight for. The rest of the time they want to restrict chooses to what they think looks best to them. They ignore or mock anyone who fights for real freedom and free choice.
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