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Ptilk  4 stars
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
Damn.

Now I wanna drive a cab.

Even more interesting than tending bar.

Cool story.
Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts: 1,674
Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
Yukishiro1 posted:

cobane posted:

If Koneg were a serial killer, he'd definitely be the kind who sends letters to the press. "Actually, that is NOT how I murdered them, and to think so is not only asinine, it's frankly insulting."



So true.

 

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Friarspam  3 stars
Posts: 638
Registered: 2007-1-23 07:01:27
Koneg posted:

illmyrin posted:

And your prints are now all over his gun.


Grats on being set up.

Actually it isn't that easy to pull useful prints off a weapon you've been firing. Only about one in ten discharged weapons will have a usable print left on it.

When you discharge the weapon the vibration ruins every single print you're leaving. It's handling the weapon after firing it that leaves usable prints. The grips tend to be the best place to find usable prints, and they tend to have b]textured or striated surfaces that prevent you from leaving prints in the first place. Proper weapon handling (ie, finger off the trigger unless you're actually shooting) doesn't leave much on the trigger to work with either.

This bit of useless trivia brought to you by the number 9, and the letter M.



Actually, I must disagree here. I used to teach fingerprinting after I took a rather insane level of interest in the topic. I used to carry a feather in my kit for demo purposes. I would also have people pull prints from textured surfaces. The trick? "Diff Lift" tape. It is like 20x thicker than standard tape and gets into the areas that normal tape will not reach.

I will provide a link that some of you coppers of the OP will really enjoy. If you work crime scenes (or hope to) there is a TON of good info here.

http://www.csigizmos.com/products/latentdevelopment/difflift.html

As an added bonus, I suggest the "I Talk" course from MCTC (sorry, cops only from what I can tell):

http://www.counterdrugtraining.com/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1


FWIW, in a classroom environment I was able to recover a print from a cinder block.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
Posts: 1,036
Registered: 2002-11-21 11:55:52
Yukishiro1 posted:

cobane posted:

If Koneg were a serial killer, he'd definitely be the kind who sends letters to the press. "Actually, that is NOT how I murdered them, and to think so is not only asinine, it's frankly insulting."



So true.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Friarspam posted:

Koneg posted:

illmyrin posted:

And your prints are now all over his gun.


Grats on being set up.

Actually it isn't that easy to pull useful prints off a weapon you've been firing. Only about one in ten discharged weapons will have a usable print left on it.

When you discharge the weapon the vibration ruins every single print you're leaving. It's handling the weapon after firing it that leaves usable prints. The grips tend to be the best place to find usable prints, and they tend to have b]textured or striated surfaces that prevent you from leaving prints in the first place. Proper weapon handling (ie, finger off the trigger unless you're actually shooting) doesn't leave much on the trigger to work with either.

This bit of useless trivia brought to you by the number 9, and the letter M.



Actually, I must disagree here. I used to teach fingerprinting after I took a rather insane level of interest in the topic. I used to carry a feather in my kit for demo purposes. I would also have people pull prints from textured surfaces. The trick? "Diff Lift" tape. It is like 20x thicker than standard tape and gets into the areas that normal tape will not reach.

I will provide a link that some of you coppers of the OP will really enjoy. If you work crime scenes (or hope to) there is a TON of good info here.

http://www.csigizmos.com/products/latentdevelopment/difflift.html

As an added bonus, I suggest the "I Talk" course from MCTC (sorry, cops only from what I can tell):

http://www.counterdrugtraining.com/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1


FWIW, in a classroom environment I was able to recover a print from a cinder block.



But Konegs unsubstantiated but insistant diatribes clearly display that he has superior knowledge on every subject!


Ooops i left a word out of that sentence. Please put "thinks he" in between he and has.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Kang sounds like a good time. I might CYA and get some of the conversation on video or audio, just to have proof that all this is friendly and admissible in court.

 

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Koneg  3 stars
Title: Evil Genius
Posts: 894
Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Kjarhall posted:

But Konegs unsubstantiated but insistant diatribes clearly display that he has superior knowledge on every subject!

And obviously I do


/buffs finger nails on shirt


Besides, note that I didn't say it was impossible to get prints off a gun, clearly it is not. It's just a bit more difficult than was being implied.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
cobane posted:

If Koneg were a serial killer, he'd definitely be the kind who sends letters to the press. "Actually, that is NOT how I murdered them, and to think so is not only asinine, it's frankly insulting."






If?

 

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