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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
More? Dear Lord, why do you keep coming back here to get the snot kicked out of you? Are you masochists?

All I have to do is repeat the initial statement and observation again to be correct. So, why should I continue to do it? "The thrill is gone, baby."

The Dems executed a textbook case of hypocrisy. It's the very definition of the word. No amount of semantic wrangling about how I or anyone else expresses that fact changes the fact itself.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

More? Dear Lord, why do you keep coming back here to get the snot kicked out of you? Are you masochists?

All I have to do is repeat the initial statement and observation again to be correct. So, why should I continue to do it? "The thrill is gone, baby."

The Dems executed a textbook case of hypocrisy. It's the very definition of the word. No amount of semantic wrangling about how I or anyone else expresses that fact changes the fact itself.





You got the facts wrong. You got the stance of liberals wrong. Considering you are trying to compare facts to a political position it helps if you get your facts right and the political position correct.

Since you did neither it is hard for you to claim victory and rather easy for everyone to point and laugh at you over and over and over.

It is in no way shape or form hypocritical for a political party to take a regressive tax and change it so that the revenue from the tax doesn't go so high when gas prices are high. A major reason to make this change is tied to concerns over who pays the tax and how it impacts them.

If you want to talk about when the tax was first created or how the money is being used for GF expenditures and not transportation projects then knock yourself out.

There are numerous legitimate arguments you can make concerning this issue and you failed to make one. That is a major reason why this thread is such a marvelous self pwn on your part. This issue can be like shooting fish in a barrel and you missed on got your face.

 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
Sin_of_Onin posted:

You got the facts wrong...



I got one word of semantics wrong, in a follow-up post. Here. Let me correct that "horrific" error:


Abaddon posted:

A. Dems in Cali -- ALL ON THEIR OWN -- have instituted* a 100% regressive tax on the most used and pervasive commodity in the state, disproportionately reaming every working man and woman therein.

B. You are still predictably trying to figure out how to apologize for and/or rationalize it.

* "voted in"



Uhm... go ahead. Knock yourselves out continuing to look like idiots.

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-11 17:03:52
You've missed like 3 or 4 factual errors in that post... and corrected something no one cared about.

Grats on compounding your failure one more time.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Sin_of_Onin posted:

I don't even know what the semantic argument over passed came from let alone how it was assigned to anything I said.

That's AA trying to wiggle as much as possible until this thread dies and he can pretend it never happened...

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

You got the facts wrong...



I got one word of semantics wrong, in a follow-up post. Here. Let me correct that "horrific" error:


Abaddon posted:

A. Dems in Cali -- ALL ON THEIR OWN -- have instituted* a 100% regressive tax on the most used and pervasive commodity in the state, disproportionately reaming every working man and woman therein.

B. You are still predictably trying to figure out how to apologize for and/or rationalize it.

* "voted in"



Uhm... go ahead. Knock yourselves out continuing to look like idiots.



No one cared about instituted vs whatever you said at first.

The factual errors are:

1. It wasn't all on their own.

2. It wasn't instituting a new tax, they just changed the method by which the old one was calculated.

3. The new method ends up hurting working class people less than the old method.

So basically you're wrong about everything that matters in your assertion.
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Yukishiro1 posted:

No one cared about instituted vs whatever you said at first.

The factual errors are:

1. It wasn't all on their own.

2. It wasn't instituting a new tax, they just changed the method by which the old one was calculated.

3. The new method ends up hurting working class people less than the old method.

So basically you're wrong about everything that matters in your assertion.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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This thread is like a bad penny!

 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
Posts: 1,674
Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
Abaddon posted:

A. Dems in Cali -- ALL ON THEIR OWN -- have instituted* a 100% regressive tax on the most used and pervasive commodity in the state, disproportionately reaming every working man and woman therein.

B. You are still predictably trying to figure out how to apologize for and/or rationalize it.

* "voted in"

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
Posts: 297
Registered: 2003-5-11 17:03:52
Sin_of_Onin posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

No one cared about instituted vs whatever you said at first.

The factual errors are:

1. It wasn't all on their own.

2. It wasn't instituting a new tax, they just changed the method by which the old one was calculated.

3. The new method ends up hurting working class people less than the old method.

So basically you're wrong about everything that matters in your assertion.




And yeah, the basic error of this entire thread is that you attempt to attribute to Democrats (and how they interact with the relevant issues here) the same style of rigidity and absolutism that you see in great parts of the Republican party (on tax issues). You then compound that by making an ongoing list of factual errors in a deliberate attempt to not understand what you're talking about.

 

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