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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Tych2 posted:

AA I am going to offer some advice and feel free to take it or ignore it, but when everyone is saying you are wrong it's time for some reevaluation and/or self reflection on the topic in question.




Nah. I'll actually keep teaching until the couple people intellectually capable of getting it... and interested in getting it... actually get my point.

On occasion I continue to throw the pearls before the swine. Because, on rare occasions, one of the swine shows he has evolved ever so slightly to appreciate their beauty.

 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Elocism posted:





That would be...


The usual suspects posted:


 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Groucho48 posted:

I do agree that in general, sales taxes and consumption taxes are not progressive. I will also stipulate that many liberals call them regressive.



That's as far as you need to go to understand then, Groucho.


Dems rant that there is no way a flat tax should ever be applied in any environ or to anything without an exemption floor because it "disproportionately punishes the poor and working class." No percentage-based or flat-rate income tax. The Poor should be exempted from flat or even % based consumption taxes on food. Etc.


Dems turn around when they are in legislative control in Cali and levy a tax on the ONE THING that is the ALMOST UNIVERSALLY PERVASIVE cost driver in our economy: gas. Thereby raising the price universally and flatly (regressively) on ***everything*** in their state. Not just income. Not just food. ***f'cking everything for everyone always***


Does that clear it up for you?



This post is one part strawman and one part factually incorrect.


This has been pointed out to you multiple times. Is that clear?

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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How is this thread still going? Stop being mean to AA. He obviously can't help himself.
Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

This post is one part strawman and one part factually incorrect.

This has been pointed out to you multiple times. Is that clear?



Yes. It is clear that your principal retort is one part strawman and one part factually incorrect.

My statement otoh is one obvious fact, paired with another obvious fact.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

How is this thread still going? Stop being mean to AA. He obviously can't help himself.

I gave some simple, but good advice and it's being ignored. You can only point out the problem. You can't force someone to face it.

[face_shrug]

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

My statement otoh is one obvious fact, paired with another obvious fact.

Did I miss the post where you admitted how effing dumb you were or something?


Just because Baym isn't around any more and just because Paulg has moved on from his insane blathering about doesn't mean you or anyone else has to pick up the torch and run with it...

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Yes. It is clear that your principal retort is one part strawman and one part factually incorrect.


My statement otoh is one obvious fact, paired with another obvious fact.



Did the Cali legislature push through a new tax on gas or did they change the existing taxation of gas?

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

Dems rant that there is no way a flat tax should ever be applied in any environ or to anything without an exemption floor because it "disproportionately punishes the poor and working class."



This thread would be much more effective if it wasnt based on something you just made up. I have not seen Dems make this statement about 'anything'.


Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

No percentage-based or flat-rate income tax. The Poor should be exempted from flat or even % based consumption taxes on food. Etc.



2 things count as anything?





You seem to be assuming that just because you are a radical extremist on this issue, the other side must be the same way.

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