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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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The right is mentally handicapped the way they think about contraceptives. It is retarded and dishonest.
The left is mentally handicapped the way they think about abortion. It is retarded and dishonest.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

Mastboro is an idiot, but not for that reason eager. That is simply human nature and its no different than most every other topic/subject.



I'm vaguely familiar. I've moved on to mocked Mascara because every effort to actually debate ends with Mascara disappearing when confronted with facts inconvenient to 'his' faith based arguments.


Also, paragraphs and formating might lead me to read more of 'his' /stupid for entertainment value.


And I am interested in proponents of Santorum's position speaking out on the national scene. This would also make a great GOP debate topic. It could be a question either before or after questions regarding whether use of birth control equates with sexual promiscuity and whether birth control shouldn't be withheld because it violates God's order.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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There was a link that Groucho posted awhile back that I thanked him for. A month ago maybe? Anyways it was the transcript of Santorum speaking to some catholic university alumni a few years ago. Reading thru that would actually support Mastboro being at odds with Catholicism, as Santorum didn't mince words and clearly drew a religious line in the sand about Catholics being the true religion and everyone else being pretenders, specifically including in that other denominations of Christianity, and specifically blaming many of the woes of the U.S. on the founding fathers for not being Catholic.

 

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armoredgimp  1 star
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http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/45829898#45829898

I think i have to agree with him.
Civil Unions recognized by the federal government that would give same sex couples the same rights as currently married couples enjoy, along with the obligations and responsibilities associated with marriage is the right answer.


Watch the video and listen to what he is saying, try not to get stuck on the word marriage and you will see his point.


The San Francisco Chronicle article takes what he said out of context to as per usual.

 

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Sgian_Dubh  2 stars
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The u.s. is unique amongst developed nations in that levels of "religiousness" don't drop as levels of education rise.


I expect religious parroting and idiocy from our uneducated citizens, and am frightened by it when it comes from those who should know better.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Because the U.S. of all places has ascended to tolerance for the most part. 'should know better' comes from people that aren't quite there yet.

 

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Scarne  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
armoredgimp posted:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/45829898#45829898

I think i have to agree with him.
Civil Unions recognized by the federal government that would give same sex couples the same rights as currently married couples enjoy, along with the obligations and responsibilities associated with marriage is the right answer.


Watch the video and listen to what he is saying, try not to get stuck on the word marriage and you will see his point.


The San Francisco Chronicle article takes what he said out of context to as per usual.


No, it is dumb to play "separate but equal" games with calling some stuff civil unions and other stuff marriages. Christians do not have ownership of the word "marriage". Plus, everyone is going to end up calling it marriage anyways regardless of what the legal term for stuff is.

 

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Sinlock  2 stars
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Scarne posted:

No, it is dumb to play "separate but equal" games with calling some stuff civil unions and other stuff marriages. Christians do not have ownership of the word "marriage"



Exactly. It's just a stupid word. Let them just get plain old "married" and be done with it.

 

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Sezyrrith  2 stars
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Sinlock posted:

Scarne posted:

No, it is dumb to play "separate but equal" games with calling some stuff civil unions and other stuff marriages. Christians do not have ownership of the word "marriage"



Exactly. It's just a stupid word. Let them just get plain old "married" and be done with it.

This. Why are people so butthurt over the use of the word 'marriage' to describe homosexuals living under the same quasi-contractual relationship they do?

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
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Sezyrrith posted:

Sinlock posted:

Scarne posted:

No, it is dumb to play "separate but equal" games with calling some stuff civil unions and other stuff marriages. Christians do not have ownership of the word "marriage"



Exactly. It's just a stupid word. Let them just get plain old "married" and be done with it.

This. Why are people so butthurt over the use of the word 'marriage' to describe homosexuals living under the same quasi-contractual relationship they do?



Religious people are bigoted and get all ARGHELBARGH about the "sanctity of marriage"

 

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