I don't hate you, but I think you're hopelessly confused, and I think it's sad. Sexuality is a very small part of who people are, but I think you're the type of person who would reverse friendships and possibly even kinship based on it. There's a reason I don't let certain people know still.

I like the twisted part though, I was just being told the other day how I need to be rowdier and meaner.

Edit: PS, if you were in the military, I bet you've associated with at least a couple gay people and were none the wiser.

 

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I still hate some veggies yes. Like cauliflower that has the texture of a wart and broccoli. Unless its steamed to mush. Spinach if it isnt cooked the way I like it. Umm, beets I cant stand, tomatoes. Meh, like everyone have my own tastes.

Azure I'm sure many here would agree. But I dont hate you. But I disagree with your actions and I wont compromise on the issue either biblically or for conscious sake.

 

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This.

He's operating on a combination of Mexican 'machismo' and Catholic bullshit. Both are a combination for complete stupidity.

 

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I am mexican but have never been, nor will ever be or believe in Catholicism.

 

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I'm not asking you to compromise anything, that's the part I think you and people like you don't get.

In fact, in real life, if I knew you, I would probably do my darnedest to make sure you never knew.

It's disappointing you feel the need to disagree with who I'm mentally attracted to, and if I could harness and control those thoughts and be attracted to whomever I wanted, I so would. It doesn't seem to work that way though, at least not so far. However, I'm not just going to live a life of repression and celibacy which can be somewhat mentally scarring and debilitating, because you say a book which was voted in a couple millenia ago by people who, by the words of that very book, have complete free will, is the absolute truth. For one, we wouldn't see homosexuality in nature (which supposedly has no free will, and is perfect), but it occurs quite frequently.

And before someone says it's all about pleasure, I'd disagree - it's not about living however you want, just doing as you please. It's about living a healthy and balanced life, where you do good by yourself, your neighbors, your community, and your world.

 

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Oh and I can do this too....

 

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They aren't christians either right?

 

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You might as well be Catholic, and you are obviously completely infected with lame mexican machismo. Machismo individuals are always poor, stupid, ignorant, and completely bigoted.

There is one blessing in the coverage Santorum is getting; he's ugly, and I believe that it's quite obvious to most everyone that he is ugly. This is especially true with the young. Young people are leaving the church in droves and will continue to do so, and assholes like Santorum - and Mastara - are part of the reason. No one wants to be like them.

 

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Well the difference between nature and us as humans is that we are not animals. We are humans created in the image of God. And I dont want to change you. Its not my place or want to change you. But I will call an action what it is and even more so if the bible agrees with me. But rest assured simply because your homosexual doesn't mean I hate you. I dont. Regardless of what people here say it doesn't make it true. Id call someone cheating on his wife an adulterer, or a rapist a rapist, a thief a thief. It comes down to action. We choose our actions. They dont choose us. We can make the nature claim all day long but when it comes down to it your responsible for your own actions. All of us are. You and I are no different and no one forces us to do anything. You are who you want to be or who you think you should be. Why, I dont know. I dont claim to know. I dont believe people are born gay, or any other propaganda that says otherwise. Now the bible says we will all stand before god and give an account and no one can answer for us and no one is going to bs God. We will give an account of everything we've done. I dont wish anyone to stand before him and be condemned because they thought what they were doing was right when God says it wasn't and nothing is unforgivable except the complete denial of the one that God sent to this earth to die for us. So I will speak out, like the apostles if you choose to view it that way. I dont mind ridicule or people hating me or not liking me, but it wont change me. If I stay silent then I'm basically calling Gods word a liar and I'm basically agreeing with what they are doing. I cannot be that person. That doesn't mean I hate you in any way. Believe that. I dont know you from adam, but I know that I dont hate you. The rest of these people here have no bearing on what I'm saying here. I wont reverse my beliefs because they can see what I'm posting to you. Ill say the same thing openly or in private on this issue. I believe people stay where they want to stay or where they feel comfortable staying. Now personally I've done wrong. More than I would ever admit. Never anything homosexual, but I have had sex before I was married, I have cheated and I've been cheated on. I too will answer for my wrongs. Just as you. But the same God that loves me loves you. The same God that died for me died for you. Know that. Sin regardless of the action is sin. It doesn't go away on its own and our society doesn't help in this effort either. But your a man and I am a man, we can choose our own path. God made it this way. Its all up to you, like it is all up to me. To choose the way we want to live now. But know the way we choose to live now, will show the way we will live for eternity. Politics decide how we live on earth and religion determines how we live forever. If you want to carry this conversation farther please feel free to pm me. I have no issues talking to you man to man. Any man or woman for that matter. Regardless of what people here think I care for all of you. My attitude at the time says otherwise but its hard to convey feelings and tone over words in a chat forum.

 

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