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reesescups  4 stars
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Rosaria posted:

reesescups posted:

Rosaria posted:

I would start by using spell-check.

That would cost money


Just like a woman - spend spend spend


That's how you know Rosa is a check!

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Lyken-P  2 stars
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Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
Jaedence posted:

I would cut defense spending in half (so we only spend three times as much as our nearest competitor.)
Close bases in most parts of the world.
Quit giving subsidies to oil companies.
Raise taxes on the rich.

Darkblade_The_Great  1 star
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Registered: 2000-8-10 09:20:33
Jaedence posted:

I would cut defense spending in half (so we only spend three times as much as our nearest competitor.)
Close bases in most parts of the world.
Quit giving subsidies to oil companies.
Raise taxes on the rich.

And as a preemptive strike to the RWN who will come in here and say "I would cut food stamps, welfare, medicaid and all social aid programs" - give it up. Cutting those programs to zero would impact the budget about as much as a fly hitting my car impacts the windshield.



You might want to /google a few things before you post. Do you really think that Medicaid/Medicare/welfare programs/etc don't have an impact on our budget? As far as things not having an impact, tax breaks to oil companies(which I agree need to be done away with) and raising taxes on just the rich won't do much of anything.


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258


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In fiscal year 2010, the federal government spent $3.5 trillion, amounting to 24 percent of the nation’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP). While the level of 2010 expenditures — as a share of GDP — exceeds those of recent years, the composition of the budget largely resembles the patterns of recent years. Of that $3.5 trillion, almost $2.2 trillion was financed by federal tax revenues. The remaining $1.3 trillion was financed by borrowing; this deficit will ultimately be paid for by future taxpayers.



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Defense and security: In 2010, some 20 percent of the budget, or $705 billion, paid for defense and security-related international activities. The bulk of the spending in this category reflects the underlying costs of the Department of Defense and other security-related activities. The total also includes the cost of supporting operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, which totaled $170 billion in 2010.

Social Security: Another 20 percent of the budget, or $707 billion, paid for Social Security, which provided retirement benefits averaging $1,175 per month to 34.6 million retired workers in December 2010. Social Security also provided benefits to 2.9 million spouses and children of retired workers, 6.4 million surviving children and spouses of deceased workers, and 10.2 million disabled workers and their eligible dependents in December 2010.

Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP: Three health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) — together accounted for 21 percent of the budget in 2010, or $732 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $452 billion, went to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 47 million people who are over the age of 65 or have disabilities. The remainder of this category funds Medicaid and CHIP, which in a typical month in 2010 will provide health care or long-term care to about 60 million low-income children, parents, elderly people, and people with disabilities. Both Medicaid and CHIP require matching payments from the states.



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Safety net programs: About 14 percent of the federal budget in 2010, or $496 billion, went to support programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship.



 

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Akza  2 stars
Posts: 271
Registered: 2002-9-8 18:02:25
Raise taxes back to more historical values.

Cut defense spending a huge amount but a portion of it I would put towards NASA and other scientific research rather than towards debt.

Raise the retirement age a year or two effectively immediately. You baby boomers can kiss my ass who lived off the high hog and pass off your crap onto the younger generations. Remove or up the income cap part. I know it's not quite fair since the benefits are capped.

Diminish invasive federal agencies like TSA and Homeland Security

Legalize and tax marijuana (dont tie up jails, courts, etc with it)

Medicare is a hot topic. Health care is a bubble where we pay the largest amount in relation to GDP. It does need to be cut back. I'm no fancy, health industry expert though.

I would also raise import taxes on non-commodities. If other countries want to overtax our exports and undermine the currency exchange rates, then they can get a taste of their own medicine. Things would get more expensive here but it would cause a shift towards local jobs. I'd rather pay 10% extra for things knowing people in my community have a job rather than living off my tax money and causing higher crime rates.

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
The main culprits are entitlement programs, mounting debt, and one-time charges.

Off of my head these are plausible changes.

Depending on which side of the fence you are on, will sway you as to which is acceptable.


Medicaid~

Isolate and address the drivers of medical cost inflation

Improve efficiency/productivity of healthcare system

Reduce coverage for optional benefits and optional enrollees

Medicare~

Reduce benefits

Increase Medicare tax rate

Isolate and address the drivers of medical cost inflation

Social Security~

Raise retirement age

Reduce benefits

Increase Social Security tax rate

Reduce future initial benefits by indexing to cost of living growth rather than wage growth

Subject benefits to means test to determine eligibility

Slow GDP/Revenue Growth~

Invest in technology/infrastructure/education (be like China)

Remove tax and regulatory uncertainties to stimulate employment growth

Reduce subsidies and tax expenditures and broaden tax base


Defense spending I do not see as a large problem.

Re-setting priorities and streamlining could yield savings perhaps without damaging security.

Truly though, entitlement spending has a bigger impact on our countries financials.

Defense has nearly doubled in the last decade to 5% of GDP, however it is still below the 7% share of GDP from 1948-2000.

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theredkay1  3 stars
Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Lower the value of the dollar. Push inflation back to 3+% like it was prior to this past decade.


Try to get people to recognize that the US budget problem (public and private) is caused by: slow nominal economic growth over the past 3+ decades, a massive trade deficit. The federal budget problem is caused by the above factors plus the collapse of the financial industry and long term medical costs.


Fixes for the budget problem need to focus on these factors directly. Most proposed budget solutions are just social wealth distribution issues, aka class warfare, or accounting gimmicks under the false pretense that its a budget issue.


The worst are the calls to alter social security. SS is not allowed to add to the deficit. If we do absolutely nothing, SS will not add a dime to the deficit.
Bjorvald  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-5 20:51:00
>> If we do absolutely nothing, SS will not add a dime to the deficit.

Just curious.. since SS is already paying out more than it is collecting and the "lockbox" is empty, where are they getting their funds for continued operation?

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
How would you start to balance the budget?


Require voters to know what the U.S. constitution really says and means... It will take a while but that will do the trick.
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Bjorvald posted:

>> If we do absolutely nothing, SS will not add a dime to the deficit.


Just curious.. since SS is already paying out more than it is collecting and the "lockbox" is empty, where are they getting their funds for continued operation?



Are you under the impression US debt is worthless?

 

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Bjorvald  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-5 20:51:00
>> Are you under the impression US debt is worthless?

No, but I am under the impression that the only entity they can sell the debt to is the federal govt itself, which is already in deficit.

 

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