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Scarne  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
http://www.nature.com/news/lsd-helps-to-treat-alcoholism-1.10200

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The powerful hallucinogen LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) has potential as a treatment for alcoholism, according to a retrospective analysis of studies published in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

The study1, by neuroscientist Teri Krebs and clinical psychologist Pål-Ørjan Johansen of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim, is the first-ever quantitative meta-analysis of LSD–alcoholism clinical trials. The researchers sifted through thousands of records to collect data from randomized, double-blind trials that compared one dose of LSD to a placebo.

Of 536 participants in six trials, 59% of people receiving LSD reported lower levels of alcohol misuse, compared to 38% of people who received a placebo. “We were surprised that the effect was so clear and consistent,” says Krebs. She says that the problem with most studies done at that time was that there were too few participants, which limited statistical power. “But when you combine the data in a meta-analysis, we have more than 500 patients and there is definitely an effect,” she says. In general, the reported benefits lasted three to six months. Their findings are published today in the Journal of Psychopharmacology.


 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Who the eff can't tell the difference between LSD and a pacebo?

 

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"Facing the Habit" on Netflix is a documentary about a guy kicking heroin by using hallucinogenics. Kind of brutal.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

Who the eff can't tell the difference between LSD and a pacebo?



For much of human history the passage into 'adult' hood involved the consumption or intoxication by some means of some bad ass drugs, natural drugs.


If you could get through it and keep your cool - you were alright. If you couldn't get through it and be cool while going through it, you were on the shit list and low on the totem pole.


Now a days weak ass minded peons that can't handle their shit and freak out at the first sign of a house fly are trying to run shit.


Fuck that.

 

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Snarf_Igraine  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-13 14:36:34
paulg_68 posted:

Who the eff can't tell the difference between LSD and a pacebo?





The placebo will have a mild effect, like it will be a benzo such as ativan... somethign that makes you think you got some medicine, but it is something that has nothing to do with helping with alcoholism.
reesescups  4 stars
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Snarf_Igraine posted:

paulg_68 posted:

Who the eff can't tell the difference between LSD and a pacebo?





The placebo will have a mild effect, like it will be a benzo such as ativan... somethign that makes you think you got some medicine, but it is something that has nothing to do with helping with alcoholism.

Thanks captain decoder ring... We all already know wtf a placebo is.


Are you related to Koneg?

 

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Snarf_Igraine  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-13 14:36:34
You suffer from reading comprehension. Stop using drugs sir. Paul is asking how is it possible that someone is getting a placebo and not be aware they did NOT get LSD. For example if you gave me a sugar pill and was told I was getting LSD I would think uh, no I didnt, this didn't do anything to me. To trick people into thinking they are getting the real medicine when in fact you are giving them a placebo you have to have the placebo affect them noticeably.
ZartanAround  3 stars
Title: Torpid Curmudgeon
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Registered: 2004-2-6 20:54:09
reesescups posted:

paulg_68 posted:

Who the eff can't tell the difference between LSD and a pacebo?



For much of human history the passage into 'adult' hood involved the consumption or intoxication by some means of some bad ass drugs, natural drugs.


If you could get through it and keep your cool - you were alright. If you couldn't get through it and be cool while going through it, you were on the shit list and low on the totem pole.


Now a days weak ass minded peons that can't handle their shit and freak out at the first sign of a house fly are trying to run shit.


Fuck that.



while i admit that i wholeheartedly agree with you...
i must also admit that i am addicted to placebos.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Snarf_Igraine posted:

You suffer from reading comprehension. Stop using drugs sir. Paul is asking how is it possible that someone is getting a placebo and not be aware they did NOT get LSD.

And you apparently are suffering from a lack of a brain.

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-10-18 12:57:37
I'd think most people, even one that have no experience with drugs, would know whether or not they were tripping on acid. A benzo is not going to make the room start moving.

the idea of an LSD placebo is kind of

 

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