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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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Kjarhall
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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Brother_Tempus posted:
thankfully that 69% can stuff it, we are a constitutional republic, not a crappy democracy
Telling 69% of the population to stuff it is not how a constitutional republic works. HTH, derp.
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Date Posted:
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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Article posted:
Seventy percent of Democrats and 55% of Republicans want to outlaw super PACs, as do nearly eight in 10 independents.
Okay here is something that doesn't make sense. You have 70% of Democrats that want to outlaw super PACs. Ergo, money/power concentration is bad. But yet they steadfastly support big government and generally claim that more government (in some fashion) can resolve all woes.
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How come they aren't making the connection that you would automatically diminish the power & influence of super PACs, even the impetus for super PACs coming together, if you just decentralized your government?
Why? Why would they be so contrary in this fashion? Either you are forced to think that they aren't so smart or you have to question their true motivations. Now without getting all upset about some tough questions, explain this please.
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Elocism
Title: Pseudonym
Posts: 787
Registered: 2002-5-3 01:50:00
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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campaign finance is a joke
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silvadel
Title: MMRPG Expert
Posts: 165
Registered: 2001-4-18 11:54:17
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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Aerlinthian posted:
Article posted:
Seventy percent of Democrats and 55% of Republicans want to outlaw super PACs, as do nearly eight in 10 independents.
Okay here is something that doesn't make sense. You have 70% of Democrats that want to outlaw super PACs. Ergo, money/power concentration is bad. But yet they steadfastly support big government and generally claim that more government (in some fashion) can resolve all woes.
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How come they aren't making the connection that you would automatically diminish the power & influence of super PACs, even the impetus for super PACs coming together, if you just decentralized your government?
Why? Why would they be so contrary in this fashion? Either you are forced to think that they aren't so smart or you have to question their true motivations. Now without getting all upset about some tough questions, explain this please.
I think the democrats would prefer fully centrally funded campaigns with no outside donations whatsoever...
IE the State would give say 500 million dollars to the republican and the democrat to spend and nobody could spend any of their money on ads for or against any candidate during the campaign season nor could they donate any money to the candidates.
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Desnoxvu
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Registered: 2002-3-21 11:48:50
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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The super PACs were an unintended consequence of legislation limiting campaign contributions. Since the money doesn't go to the candidates campaign then there is absolutely no tracking of the donations either. This is why idiots shouldn't pretend to be righteous while writing legislation against free speech.
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Date Posted:
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Poll: 69% of Americans want to outlaw super PACs
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silvadel posted:
I think the democrats would prefer fully centrally funded campaigns with no outside donations whatsoever...
IE the State would give say 500 million dollars to the republican and the democrat to spend and nobody could spend any of their money on ads for or against any candidate during the campaign season nor could they donate any money to the candidates.
Which brings us back to inherent and ostensibly insurmountable problems that even if you could legislate away, you would have a never ending whack-a-mole game of chasing the closure of loop holes. And the loop holes would most likely favor the establishment. Also, a system of centrally funded campaigns you can bet your ass is going to lockout anyone other than the establishment by design. So effectively "the people" are once again left holding the shit end of the stick.
To my mind there are only two effective ways to solve this problem. One is smaller less powerful government that is inherently less attractive to monied interests. The other is a constitutional requirement for voter competence testing.
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