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paulg_68  Posts: 2,469
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Coal and natural gas power plants occupy a tiny amount of space compared to what is required to produce an equal amount of wind energy.
People don't like living near them, but only 1% as many people need to.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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And they're probably poor anyway. So who cares? They also die from the air pollution from those coal plants, especially when they live very close to them. But again, they're poor. So who cares?
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imaloon1  Posts: 674
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They can fit those coal plants with stack scrubbers to clean them up.
None of you are looking at the EROI or the total energy input required to make any one of these better than the other though.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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It's not exactly a big secret that wind plants cost more than coal or NG plants, but the returns on renewable energy are going to improve over time.
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George Carlin: We want them, we need them, BUT NOT IN MY BACK YARD!!!!
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Nestor_II  Title: I Would Walk 500 Miles
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There is one health effect from Wind Turbines and is from where they are anchored, it they are too close to housing the turbine oscillation will travel through the ground and vibrate your house with a low level hum, that will eventually cause serious headaches and loss of sleep. Remember when these things are working the tower is vibrating and it goes straight to the soil and bedrock.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Nestor_II posted:
There is one health effect from Wind Turbines and is from where they are anchored, it they are too close to housing the turbine oscillation will travel through the ground and vibrate your house with a low level hum, that will eventually cause serious headaches and loss of sleep. Remember when these things are working the tower is vibrating and it goes straight to the soil and bedrock.
That sounds like a bigger crock of shit than Phlegm has on his examination gloves at the end of the day.
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paulg_68 posted:
Coal and natural gas power plants occupy a tiny amount of space compared to what is required to produce an equal amount of wind energy.
People don't like living near them, but only 1% as many people need to.
Incorrect. Technology is advancing such that a single turbine can now produce upwards of 10MW. That is, of course, dependent on many different factors, including air density, wind speed, hub height, and rotor size. Of those factors, wind speed is by far the most important, by a factor of 3, which is why site selection is key. Wind turbines also directly generate AC power, rather than DC, so you don't have any losses in converting from DC to AC.
As far as alternatives to turbines, check out Windstalks. Although still mostly theoretical, they are silent, and generate electricity by working the turbine underground, as the stalk sways in the wind.
There is also new technology in development, called a solar updraft tower, which can actually create wind where little occurs naturally.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Coal and natural gas power plants occupy a tiny amount of space compared to what is required to produce an equal amount of wind energy.
People don't like living near them, but only 1% as many people need to.
Incorrect. Technology is advancing such that a single turbine can now produce upwards of 10MW.
Coal and natural gas power plants can produce more than 100 times that much.
And they can do it 24/7 regardless of how the wind is blowing.
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
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Eternal_Midnight posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Coal and natural gas power plants occupy a tiny amount of space compared to what is required to produce an equal amount of wind energy.
People don't like living near them, but only 1% as many people need to.
Incorrect. Technology is advancing such that a single turbine can now produce upwards of 10MW. That is, of course, dependent on many different factors, including air density, wind speed, hub height, and rotor size. Of those factors, wind speed is by far the most important, by a factor of 3, which is why site selection is key. Wind turbines also directly generate AC power, rather than DC, so you don't have any losses in converting from DC to AC.
As far as alternatives to turbines, check out Windstalks. Although still mostly theoretical, they are silent, and generate electricity by working the turbine underground, as the stalk sways in the wind.
There is also new technology in development, called a solar updraft tower, which can actually create wind where little occurs naturally.
OUTSTANDING IDEA!
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