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Szerek Posts: 338 Registered: 2000-8-8 09:26:09	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	GrilledCheez posted: If a kid is only making 10k a year and nto claimed by someone else as a dependent then they pay very little taxes. If they got ANY credit they would probably be negative. If they got no credit then they pay very very little. neither person is being taxed unfairly IMO. Paying 40 bucks a year in taxes and having no credits because you have no responsibility outside of yourself doesn't make you lots worse off than someone making more who pays negative 50 bucks a year in taxes because they have a kid. The differences are slight, and worrying about them is stupid. Again, I'm not worried about it. The talking head republican douchebag on TV was using this "nearly 50% of americans pay no income tax" as a statistic to put forth eliminating things like EIC and other low income tax breaks. Apparently these are the scum that are not paying any income tax and she should be sought out and eliminated. That is the kind of shit that pisses me off. He was implying that the 50% are people who claim the EIC and make thousands off of the credit, basically saying that we can increase revenues greatly by squeezing those who can least afford it. -----signature----- "The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it." "The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions." - George Carlin
GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls Posts: 1,060 Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	/shrug. Most people aren't big fans of welfare. I thought the dems took the wrong tact when they started using taxes to not only limit burdens on the poor and lower middle class but also pay them directly. Once that happened you had to know that the critiques on welfare would turn into critiques on tax shares. the poor and the middle class will be best served all the way around by forcing the market to pay them a living wage. Then the rest of this becomes moot. Of course you can't do that while at the same time opening up your labor to competition from places where people can literally be treated and compensated like slaves. So the rich win and the poor lose I guess. Good game dems. -----signature----- Another word for expensive is successful.
Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307 Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	GrilledCheez posted: /shrug. Most people aren't big fans of welfare. I thought the dems took the wrong tact when they started using taxes to not only limit burdens on the poor and lower middle class but also pay them directly. Once that happened you had to know that the critiques on welfare would turn into critiques on tax shares. the poor and the middle class will be best served all the way around by forcing the market to pay them a living wage. Then the rest of this becomes moot. Of course you can't do that while at the same time opening up your labor to competition from places where people can literally be treated and compensated like slaves. So the rich win and the poor lose I guess. Good game dems. Actually much of what makes our lives so good is a result of foreign trade. -----signature----- "Okay... I'm with you fellas" --Delmar F is for Fake-believe "We apologise for the inconvenience" --God "What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem"--Reg Run, Forrest! Run!
GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls Posts: 1,060 Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	Sin_of_Onin posted: GrilledCheez posted: /shrug. Most people aren't big fans of welfare. I thought the dems took the wrong tact when they started using taxes to not only limit burdens on the poor and lower middle class but also pay them directly. Once that happened you had to know that the critiques on welfare would turn into critiques on tax shares. the poor and the middle class will be best served all the way around by forcing the market to pay them a living wage. Then the rest of this becomes moot. Of course you can't do that while at the same time opening up your labor to competition from places where people can literally be treated and compensated like slaves. So the rich win and the poor lose I guess. Good game dems. Actually much of what makes our lives so good is a result of foreign trade. deflation or no inflation in certain areas has certainly been one good facet of globalization. but that's always true any time you squeeze labor. -----signature----- Another word for expensive is successful.
DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff News Editor Posts: 584 Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	I know quite a few people who pay nothing in federal income tax, but that is majorly due to being single mothers. When I got my first real job and made $30k a year, with no real write offs I pretty much got back everything I paid in. As everyone else mentioned, that 50% is the elderly, those below the poverty line and single parents with kids.
Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307 Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	GrilledCheez posted: deflation or no inflation in certain areas has certainly been one good facet of globalization. but that's always true any time you squeeze labor. You have it backwards. Increases in production "squeeze" labor in the short run. This is the way it will always be but the fact that they are producing more will help increase wages in the long run. In fact continued increases in production rely on that happening. Ultimately that is what is hurting labor. The squeezing of Chinese consumption at the cost of US production and Chinese consumption. -----signature----- "Okay... I'm with you fellas" --Delmar F is for Fake-believe "We apologise for the inconvenience" --God "What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem"--Reg Run, Forrest! Run!
Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885 Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29	Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:00am Subject: Nearly 50% of Americans pay no income tax.
	Everyone should pay something in income taxes, think how great it would be if the poor could trade service for their tax bills. -----signature----- Politicians are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.

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