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so my buddy bought a breathaliser.... [Locked] |
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so my buddy bought a breathaliser.... |
Cawlin posted:
sweeny_comodore posted:
Cawlin posted:
There are a lot of variables in the equation for what shows up on a breathalyzer:
strength of the drink (unless you're drinking miller or bud, most drinks are MUCH stronger than the typical figures for "one drink" 
size of the drink (most of the facts and tables you see are based on 12 ounce beers with about 5% alcohol and many/most drafts are 12 ounces or more)
body weight of the drinker
time since last drinking (you metabolize about the alcohol in a pint of 5% ABV beer per hour)
That said, I would suspect the accuracy of an over the counter breathalyzer and expect that it would be tuned to be overly sensitive so as to help the manufacturer avoid lawsuits by having the machine tell a person they were under the limit when they turn out to be over it.
you metabolise about one drink an hour
you piss them out a little faster
sweat them out even faster
and breath them out as well.
breathalizers are a bad measure of BAL.
and most beers are around 4.5% some of my favorites are even a little lower. 3.5% or so, and a few are much higher. my scotch ale is around 8%.
Metabolize is basically shorthand for excrete, sweat, breathe.
My dad was a parole officer for 35+ years and for around 20 years, he taught the alcohol awareness class you were required to attend when you got a DUI in PA. From the age of about 16 until he retired when I was in my late 30s, I heard all the stats and speeches about drinking and driving more times than I care to remember from him.
Yes you "metabolize" about one drink per hour - about... which means on average - different people have different metabolic rates. As you're aware, different types of alcoholic beverages have different amounts of alcohol in them.
For years, "drinks" were equated as one 12 ounce beer = one glass of wine = one mixed drink... all with approximately 15 ml of alcohol in them - this is a relatively huge fallacy ESPECIALLY if you're drinking mixed drinks which will vary tremendously in terms of alcohol content.
good for you
you learned all the BS
did your dad tell you how cops lie and cheat?
did he tell you how the system is rigged against innocent people so the states can collect more money and appease more voters by being tough on crime will ignoring real crime?
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Date Posted:
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sweeny_comodore posted:
good for you
you learned all the BS
did your dad tell you how cops lie and cheat?
did he tell you how the system is rigged against innocent people so the states can collect more money and appease more voters by being tough on crime will ignoring real crime?
Yes.
I'm well aware of all of those things - some from hearing from my dad, some from knowing the simple biology of it all (I do have a physiology degree after all).
I'm also well aware of the fact that most people who get busted DUI aren't getting caught the very first time they drank and drove.
I'm also well aware, having lost friends who were sober bystanders and who were drunk to DUI accidents, how prevalent traffic fatalities are when people DUI.
I have personally worn out all my luck in this regard and like most other people in my age group and older, have likely driven over the limit a number of times. I have been fortunate in that the only time I was ever close to getting busted, I was right on the limit of the field breathalyzer and the cop said he was at the end of his shift and didn't feel like hauling me off for a blood test to confirm whether or not I was actually over (by which time I would have surely been under anyway), so I got REAL lucky. In truth, I may have been well under the limit and he might have been BSing me just to scare me, but either way, it worked and I don't tempt fate anymore.
I'm sorry you got busted DUI man, I truly am. I know what a fking massive hassle and lead weight that can be around your neck - again, 20 years of stories from my dad about how just a DUI arrest wrecks your life even if you don't injure anyone in an accident have driven the point home for me.
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Bowlartz  Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
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Date Posted:
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His machine is defective or just a gag gift.
Or he weighs like 50 lbs.
2 drinks doesn't put anyone at .12 I don't care how badly your body deals with alcohol.
150 lbs male, drinking 2 beers in 30 minutes should land around .045. That is on an empty stomach.
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Jaedence Posts: 146
Registered: 2009-2-27 02:17:13
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It's pathetic really. The cops and courts do see DUI as a way to raise money and it does ruin your life. And it's totally BS that someone who has two or three drinks at dinner is likely to run out to his car and careen drunkenly into a group of people minding their own business.
Do I think someone drunk should drive? No.
Do I think alcohol can cause accidents? Of course.
But the limit is way to low and is being used to shame people and make money.
They should be focusing on the people who drink to excess and drive like maniacs and I would be all for it. The fact that having a couple beers with your friends on a Friday night almost assures that EVERYONE is driving "drunk" is just asinine.
And no, I have never gotten a DUI but I know people who have after just having a typical night out with friends, no shots involved.
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Date Posted:
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so my buddy bought a breathaliser.... |
Don't drink and drive guys it ain't worth it.
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RHWarrior  Posts: 770
Registered: 2009-9-30 18:42:12
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How about not drinking much or at all the hours before you drive?!
Yeah.
Instead of getting breathalyzers and toying with limits, checking if you're getting close or not.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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The overwhelmingly vast majority of people who get busted DUI are not driving while intoxicated for the first time. Yes it will happen that someone goes to happy hour with coworkers and has *JUST BARELY* one too many beers gets behind the wheel drunk for the first time in their life and gets nailed, that's unfortunate and it does suck, however what about the guy who habitually drives after drinking hard every Friday night for 2 hours?
Yes DUI fines are excessive. Yes they are a money maker for the state. Yes they invite corruption and falsification of evidence as a result of the income they represent....
HOWEVER, talk to me about the deterrent effects of the DUI laws after you've lost a good friend who was sober and was plowed into by a drunk driver. How much do you think it ruins the lives of the parents who lose a child to a drunk driver, or how much do you think it ruins the lives of children who lose a parent or parents to drunk drivers. How much do you think it ruins your life to be stuck in a wheelchair for the REST OF YOUR LIFE because of a drunk driver - no walking, no biking, constant hassle moving around EVERYWHERE. No sex, you have to modify your home just to get in and out of it, you have to have special bathing facilities put in, your kitchen needs to be totally redone, I won't even go into the details of your newly modified bathroom habits that come with becoming wheelchair bound...
It's a small thing in the grand scheme to not be involved with the potential tragedies associated with DUI. Yes all of those things can happen without drunk driving too, but that's tragic enough, why inflate the possibility of their happening?
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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The machine isn't defective nor a gag gift.
My buddy weighs around 200.
This isn't about how I got screwed or my haesh lfe with a dui because I'm moved on.
Its about how EVERYONE is being screwed. How they are shaming people into a new prohibition.
Its about a rigged legal system in which your rights have been removed. In some states, they can florcibly hold you down and draw your blood against your wish to remain silent and have an attorney present. All based on erroneous readings of a machine that is prbably wrong.
The entire theory of dui law is built aeound these machines.
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Crackdoc Posts: 236
Registered: 2005-10-7 12:55:29
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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so my buddy bought a breathaliser.... |
In Ontario we can demand a second test using a more accurate machine that prints out the BAC.
Personally, my only test gave .035 after a 2 1/2 hour lunch and 2 glasses of Harp lager. I weigh 160 pounds.
I could see .050 if 2 beers were had quickly and then I was checked.
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Date Posted:
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"The machine isn't defective nor a gag gift.
My buddy weighs around 200."
200 lbs you say?
Medical science tells us that to achieve .12 in 30 minutes he would have to drink: 6.5 beers, glasses of whine or shots.
You could even build in margin of error of 1 drink plus or minus (5.5 to 7.5) to compensate for everything from food in gut to body physiology.
I am telling you, your buddy didn't blow .12 after 2 beers on any machine that is real.
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