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paulg_68  Posts: 2,469
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Someone just got massively pwnt. (Not you Groucho) I bet he won't even realize it.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Groucho48 posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
From what I can tell from the context of the quote Obama is referencing the way the government calculates the number for fleet standards. ie my link
/shrug
Your link was fine. In the overall picture, the harmonic average is probably the more useful. Paulg is right in that what we really need to know is how much gas we will use in actually driving a bunch of miles. If I had been in his place, I might have used his example to back up his original assertion, too. But, then, when folks called me on it, I would have agreed that my first statement was poorly worded and that things were really more complicated than that.
The first rule of arguing semantics is to never admit your an idiot. Don't argue semantics with Paulg - just laugh at him and mock him.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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/bow again
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Groucho48 posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
From what I can tell from the context of the quote Obama is referencing the way the government calculates the number for fleet standards. ie my link
/shrug
Your link was fine. In the overall picture, the harmonic average is probably the more useful. Paulg is right in that what we really need to know is how much gas we will use in actually driving a bunch of miles. If I had been in his place, I might have used his example to back up his original assertion, too. But, then, when folks called me on it, I would have agreed that my first statement was poorly worded and that things were really more complicated than that.
I wouldn't worry too much about your mistake, as my link also shows the math used to calculate the "average" is not exactly intuitive.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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paulg_68 posted:
/bow again
Indeed you should take a bow - you are the master of semantic arguments. You have mastered it so well that you start off saying one thing and then swap it up and pretend like you were saying something else just to bait people into biting on your semantic.
It's masterful - but you are still an idiot, oh and completely wrong.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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If Groucho was a woman...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhm7-LEBznk
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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paulg_68 posted:
In case you didn't realize it (and obviously you don't) there are actually several different mathematically valid ways to determine an average.
Well that's getting into semantics and I'm not sure there's much point but FWIW when I was taught math we were taught that "average" means mathematical mean and that other measurements shouldn't be called averages, because the usage of "average" in common speech is so clearly connected to the mathematical mean and not the other measures.
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paulg_68 Posts: 2,469
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You should tell Obama because he meant it the way I calculated it.
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