Noone have to give anyone anything at all.
Thats not how civilized societies should work, though

 

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Israel is still at war. The Palestians and their weak evil neighbors deserve nothing. Most all arab states in the region are very dishonorable and they deserve what they get from Israel.

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel



While it's true that Israel claims to be a democratic state it also claims to be a Jewish state.

Being a Jewish state comes first with them and they've never made any secret of that fact.

 

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You don't have to be a Jew to vote. You just have to live in Israel and satisfy several other criteria.


Israel will never claim the occupied territories because if it did it would have no principled way of not giving the vote to the people living there.


Israel has tried to have it both ways for 40 years now. But it can't do that. You can't perpetually occupy land without claiming it as part of your country. It goes against all our basic notions of international law. And you certainly can't allow your citizens to start permanently settling on that land you don't claim.

I dont like the settlements and I think they should be removed but to be honest Israel given the situation is being pretty nice to the palestinians

I think that Yuki is right about why they dotn take it all. They dont want Palestian citizens to have more votes in their government. Sad situation for everyone

Ironic that Israelis now have to be oppressive to live there.

 

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No, they haven't. They are first and foremost a Jewish state. They don't make any secret of the fact that that is their priority.




What do "our basic notions of international law" have to do with Israel?




So you think it's not their land but they should make the laws for it?

Have you really thought that through?

 

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They are occupying the land. So yes, they're bound to make certain laws to make sure their own citizens don't take that land and appropriate it for their own use illegally.


You cannot perpetually occupy land without claiming it. Every nation in the world - including Israel - now recognizes that basic principle of international law. Which is why Israel is always careful to say it's not a perpetual occupation.

The Israelis need to come up with a more humanitarian solution, maybe areas where the Palestinians could be given where they are out of the way, they could call them reservations.

 

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They are occupying nothing since the Palestinians arent agreeing to the Un agreement.

 

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You're simultaneously trying to argue that it is their land and that it isn't. Your argument only makes sense if it's both and it's not both. They are mutually exclusive. Pick one or the other and I'll tell you why your argument is wrong.

 

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