The government can do a lot by themselves and in many cases turning to private business results in inefficiencies or complete failure of a project or program.

 

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Ah ok - just being generally argumentative.


Yes SoO there are a whole host of situations outside of which is in the context of the conversation. Please feel free to continue listing situations outside of the context being discussed. I welcome your input.

 

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I suggest you go rent The Big Year with Jack Black and Steve Martin.

 

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Is it on Netflix?

 

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I thought this thread was going to be about Redline

 

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The fact is that people are scared of corporations, fascism, and communism to the point that when governments and corporations are mentioned together people freak out. Meanwhile every modern economy relies very much on government and corporations working together. Because of the general unpopularity of this it isn't talked about much or advertised. So the relationship becomes a secret and hidden from view. This in turn makes things worse because corruption tends to breed in this scenarios.

The fear of government and corporations working together actually makes things worse.

Atlas Shrugged is ironic in that it gets the importance of people owning their own labor but completely fails to understand what such a world would be like to the point of absurdity.

 

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Working together is not the same as being in bed together. It's the latter that people fear. And I'm not even sure working too closely together is a good idea if it means they're almost one and the same. People should not be ruled by large multinationals.

You don't want your sheepdog and the wolf getting too friendly - remember that dogs like meat, too. It is very easy to fall into corruption and very difficult to clean it out once it's ingrained into the way of doing things. I think we're past that point actually.


I did not see Atlas Shrugged and have no desire to, but I did see John Carter yesterday. I was actually expecting a lot worse.

There are billions of dollars to be made off of government decisions even when corruption is not involved. The primary purpose of government working with corporations is economic growth and in a capitalist system it is very likely a small group of people will benefit greatly.

That doesn't mean it is a wrong decision.

For example the laissez faire approach to the Keystone pipeline is guaranteed to benefit certain business owners. A lot of money is on the line for some people with that deal.

 

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Of course it's a horrible movie. It's a horrible book, easily one of the worst "popular" books of the 20th century. Even if you agree with it's cartoonish portrayal of good and evil and agree with every stupid thing the idiot author ever said, you can't actually claim to have enjoyed reading it. It's world record awful.

Now, factor that in with the fact that the movie was made, not to enjoy, but to push the idiotic ideas of the stupid book...and you end up with a train wreck. A 2 hour long propaganda pieced based upon the febrile mewlings of a delusional nut case.

Not exactly a recipe for entertainment.