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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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I don't care what yesterday looks like. I don't give a piss in the wind what our founding fathers did, believed, or enacted.
I am asking you, now and currently, do you think that our political climate in this country will improve in someway, anyway, in the foreseeable future?

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

I don't care what yesterday looks like. I don't give a piss in the wind what our founding fathers did, believed, or enacted.

I am asking you, now and currently, do you think that our political climate in this country will improve in someway, anyway, in the foreseeable future?



There are two things we need...


1. Adults

2. The art of negotiation


We currently don't have either. Until we can reduce spending AND increase revenue to pay down the current debt, we're not going to accomplish anything.

 

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Elocism  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-5-3 01:50:00
yes

the generation that are kids right now are growing up with basically unlimited access to information. it is what they are used to

once they get older and become politically minded, i see great things coming out of that

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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I hope so soon. The political climate now turns sane people away from politics.

 

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IMHO  4 stars
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No, not unless we get big business out of government.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Agreed Sobaki. Do you think we can get one first than the other, meaning increased revenue and/or decreased spending, or do they both have to happen at once?
Repubs seems to think one first, Dems seem to think both at same time. I think this is where your #1 and 2 come in.

Also do you think a 3rd party would help or hurt the current situation/balance?

 

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Abaddon_Ambrosius  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
IMHO posted:

Never. Not unless we get big business out of government.



Probably this.

We need a republic... and we need the stakeholders to be its individual citizen voters. Not corporations. Not crony special interest groups given unlimited speech via unlimited MSM ad and programming spends.

 

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Bjorvald  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-5 20:51:00
Moe_Nox posted:

I don't care what yesterday looks like. I don't give a piss in the wind what our founding fathers did, believed, or enacted.
I am asking you, now and currently, do you think that our political climate in this country will improve in someway, anyway, in the foreseeable future?



Nope. If anything it will get worse as the parties double down on their stupid.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Elocism posted:

yes


the generation that are kids right now are growing up with basically unlimited access to information. it is what they are used to


once they get older and become politically minded, i see great things coming out of that



Yeah, because the necessary level of information was never available before. The difference is that in the old days, information was presented in a way that required actual understanding of the subject. Nowadays, they get 128 characters worth of information and believe themselves to be informed.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

Agreed Sobaki. Do you think we can get one first than the other, meaning increased revenue and/or decreased spending, or do they both have to happen at once?

Repubs seems to think one first, Dems seem to think both at same time. I think this is where your #1 and 2 come in.


Also do you think a 3rd party would help or hurt the current situation/balance?



The issue is that there are too many cooks in the kitchen which is resulting in nothing getting done. We do not have time to listen to each and every legislator's opinion about cuts or increases.


I would suggest we implement a simple 10% across the board cut in spending and let the bush/obama tax cuts expire for this year. Decrease spending another 10% next year and the year after that. Obviously, over those years we should also be paying down the debt with the increased revenue that is being collected.


We currently have too many folks in political office who are more interested in hearing their own voice than actually doing something.

 

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