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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
I have yet to see an original copy of the "kids" long form birth certificate. Do we really know he wasn't an Adult? I mean we know how "they" are...
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the_great_intex  Title: This is what cool looks like
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Registered: 2002-6-27 08:18:27
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
Remnant_OBrien posted:
the_great_intex posted:
I get that part. But clearly the media and public officials have already made up their mind on what happened, as with a great many of Outposters. What if, and I mean hypothetically cause of course this could never happen, Zimmerman did nothing wrong and truly was just defending himself? Would kind of make a lot of people look like a bunch of clowns, wouldn't it? Granted I think we're past the point where if Zimmerman isn't found guilty of something there will be public outcry no matter what, even if he was doing nothing but in self-defense
Public officials haven't.. The advocates have. And yes a lot of outposters have a pretty firm opinion, and that goes both ways. If Zimmerman did nothing wrong, he'll be vindicated in both the criminal investigation/trial. He'll have his life. And a lot of people will still believe he did wrong.
IMO, he will not be convicted of a criminal offense, but will be found to have done something wrong in a civil trial.
But here's the question. You are essentially arguing that people shouldn't be so worked up over the kid getting killed are you not? That they're being inconsiderate of Zimmerman? He killed a kid, why should he be entitled to nobody thinking he did wrong?
Um the "kid" was a 6'2" 17 year old... how is that even a kid? Why should Zimmerman be entitled to anyone thinking he did anything wrong either?
I'm the one who isn't placing blame on anyone, yet, you clearly are one of the gifted few who knew exactly what happened
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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Because redundant was instructed that because the assailant was black that eye witnesses, police investigations, and other incriminating evidence is not sufficient.
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
Demonic there are so many things wrong with that logic i can't even grasp it all.
Start with the coddling. Your use of the word demonstrates that you've already decided racism doesn't happen and that people are just being sensitive. You've already decided that racism doesn't have any real harmful effects. That's easily disprovable.
Second, Never allow them to look past racism. Very problematic. Combine this with the coddling shit and you're not arguing that we never allow them to look past racism. You're arguing that we never allow ourselves to acknowledge racism. Your saying we should always deny seeing racism. You're projecting your own inflexibility onto others.
Then there's the whole self-fulfilling thing. Racism isn't self-fulfilling. If someone sees racism, that doesn't mean that everything suddenly becomes an example of racism.
All in all you're arguing for deluding yourself. Because you find allegations of racism inconvenient.
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Date Posted:
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
the_great_intex posted:
Um the "kid" was a 6'2" 17 year old... how is that even a kid? Why should Zimmerman be entitled to anyone thinking he did anything wrong either?
I'm the one who isn't placing blame on anyone, yet, you clearly are one of the gifted few who knew exactly what happened
17 years old is still a kid under the law. The second question isnt' coherent but i will answer what i think you're trying to ask? Because Zimmerman was an adult, he had a weapon, and he killed the kid. Someone should certainly suspect that he did something wrong. And people did. The investigating officer wanted to charge him with manslaughter apparently.
I don't know exactly what happened, but Martin is dead, he was a minor, and he wasn't armed, and he wasn't doing anything wrong when Zimmerman tweaked on him. That's enough to put the burden of the doubt (in the court of public opinion, not the court of law) on Zimmerman.
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the_great_intex Title: This is what cool looks like
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Registered: 2002-6-27 08:18:27
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
Again you're stating you're own assumption of what happened as fact when you say Martin was doing nothing wrong. The legal definition of a "kid" has hardly any weight in this argument and that has nothing to do with really anything. If Martin posed a threat and attacked Zimmerman, regardless if Zimmerman lite even a giant lower case "t" on his front lawn, Zimmerman still has ever right to protect himself and if needed, with deadly force, even if Martin is a legal "kid."
Obviously Martin wasn't a "kid" as in he wasn't defenseless or incapable of causing harm to anyone though, which is what I am talking about as in a "kid." Not whether or not he can rent a car or file himself as a independent on his taxes
I think civil court will be the only victory as well for Martin though, I agree with that. It's hard to see how much negligence and punitive damages can really be attributed to Zimmerman though seeing how there really isn't much evidence to go by.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
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Remnant you're entire post was a giant assumption of what I meant so it's not a shock that you were totally wrong, but keep going with your white guilt. That's how you'll beat racism!
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Why have right-wing bloggers launched a smear campaign against a dead 17-year-old boy? |
cabbyman posted:
The only law that was broke was when one party physically attacked the other party.
Everything else is just each "side" protecting "their own".
Plenty of racism to go around with this one!
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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Demonic you are mostly new here but have already caught on to his routine. That is all he does and its why he earned the name Redundant. I really wish it was just a shtick.
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