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Fat_wong  2 stars
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Registered: 2007-2-6 07:59:17
OH LOOK, IDIOTS
Eternal_Midnight  2 stars
Posts: 424
Registered: 2000-5-11 13:44:32
Oh, I know what it is, Cawlin, but this board is the only place I've ever seen it or heard about it. The last time it came up I had to google it.

Your own link contains the answer, as far as I've been taught: if one strictly follows the standard order of operations...

Why would you do it any other way? A thousand years and more of math don't change because some calculator or textbook doesn't quite understand the rule, or because someone doesn't want to type out a set of parentheses.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Eternal_Midnight posted:

Oh, I know what it is, Cawlin, but this board is the only place I've ever seen it or heard about it. The last time it came up I had to google it.

Your own link contains the answer, as far as I've been taught: if one strictly follows the standard order of operations...

Why would you do it any other way? A thousand years and more of math don't change because some calculator or textbook doesn't quite understand the rule, or because someone doesn't want to type out a set of parentheses.



I am not arguing FOR the "implied" multiplication thing, I'm just pointing out that THIS is the source of the ambiguity in the annotation of the problem...

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Eternal_Midnight posted:

Clearly, you wouldn't write out a bunch of brackets for a fraction: you'd write a fraction.



I'm glad we've finally established that using a bunch of brackets and parentheses instead of just writing out your fraction is poor notation. I don't know quite why it took so long, but at least we're finally there.
Eternal_Midnight  2 stars
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Registered: 2000-5-11 13:44:32
For 'fun' I checked my current math textbook; it makes no mention of this implied multiplication, either.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Eternal_Midnight posted:

For 'fun' I checked my current math textbook; it makes no mention of this implied multiplication, either.



I don't know where it came from man, I only had up to calc II and physics II in college. I am aware however, that people sort of get confused about when parentheses disappear and when they still apply - and that people mix their algebra rules with their basic math rules all the time.

 

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Eternal_Midnight  2 stars
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Registered: 2000-5-11 13:44:32
I'm not necessarily saying it's incorrect, either. I've just never seen it in my own math courses. I believe it is as a result of the digital age, and the difficulty in expressing certain things, like fractions, in code.

I guess I just don't understand why one would turn around and suggest that there is this thing called implied and explicit multiplication, when the math symbols already exist to write exactly what you mean. That's why I suggest that it's mostly people who don't really understand math rules who came up with it.

 

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Shimatta33  1 star
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Registered: 2003-11-19 23:55:28
I can't fault the thread...it's a perfect troll thread that will bring out the dumb in some and the snob in others.

That being said the math is performed from left to right after the parenthesis are resolved. It's a basic order of operations question and yes it will be failed repeatedly by people with impressive titles.

 

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Shimatta33  1 star
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Registered: 2003-11-19 23:55:28
PS for future threads of this nature tinkles please include your GIF from last year:

 

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Koneg  3 stars
Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Eternal_Midnight posted:

If you are doing fractions, then WRITE IT AS A FRACTION. You don't use the division sign if you intended a fraction.

This is so /facepalm worthy I thought I'd just quote it and leave it entirely alone.

 

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