Manegarm posted:
I can't disprove gods existence more then you can prove he exists, my reasons for not believing is based on observations mostly historical ones.
Has to do with historical science, how historians write history and what tools we use to come to the conclusion that something took place.
My problems with the idea of god begins with the idiots who think they have talked to him or have taken it upon themselves to represent him or sketch down what he has done.
Example: We know for a fact that the battle of Hastings was on October the 14th 1066 we know who won and we know whom the combatants were, why we know this is because we compiled the accounts that corroborated each other this then goes through the process of peer review where historians more or less write history by a general consensus, this is basically how all sciences works the majority rules, until proven wrong.. Then we rewrite and correct.
Here I come to a problem because I can't give that much merit to the Bible or any other "holy" book, some of it is corroborated most of it isn't.. And the magic parts are not corroborated, its mostly folk tales and hearsay.
The New testament was written 30 years after the alleged death of Jesus, this makes it even less viable as a historical document.. Especially since most of it is written by Paul who wasn't even there, and again magic.
So that more or less discounts the validity of the Bible.. So I have little reason to believe that there is a Christian god.
Along the bible I discount both Islam and the Jewish faith, add to that the fact that in the books a new prophet pops up every hundred years or so. We've not had one for quite a while.
Also with all that magic one would think that it should reoccur on our planet from time to time, it does not.
and that way it goes Religion after religion are alike in their childish way of explaining the world around us with the idea that it was magic, we know better now.
This does not discount that there is a god only that every religion out there is basically nuts.
I simply don't believe in god because I find the notion of a sapient omnipotent entity that watches over humanity to be illogical, I simply don't believe in magic and I have no need to wish for a life after this one.. I did not exist before and I shall cease to exist again.
And all the things that science can not explain yet, does not scare me in the least.. Just makes me curious, and the theory of evolution and the magnificent complexity of life on this planet is enough for me to marvel at without having to rely on magic to explain things.
That is more or less the short version.
I think I said it earlier in this thread, you can't tell the difference between religion and God. You seem to view them as one in the same.
God is. Like I said before a tornado can't rip threw a junk yard and create a computer. You saying that there is no God is saying that that's possible, that's crazy. The Laws of Nature are God's paint brushes.
My faith is my religion. There is no way I can prove a religious God that looks out for me i.e. faith.
