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I really feel bad for people sometimes. [Locked]
Bhutthed Title: His Bhuttness Posts: 161 Registered: 2004-8-9 06:49:23
Date Posted:3/4/12 4:42pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
RhesusFF posted: Funny thread Zuizide!
And BTW, just because you've moved to the old folks coast doesn't mean you should be letting all the fussy old ladies living around you post on the boards now.
Panama City Beach is freakin great, even with old folks. Hope it's that far north!
Also Z eats small children.
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:42pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
Bhutthed posted:
RhesusFF posted: Funny thread Zuizide!
And BTW, just because you've moved to the old folks coast doesn't mean you should be letting all the fussy old ladies living around you post on the boards now.
Panama City Beach is freakin great, even with old folks. Hope it's that far north!
Also Z eats small children.
Only 18+ females.
And I'm an hour or so north of Tampa/St. Pete. There is a beach about 15 minutes from me still though.
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:42pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
Darth_Sauron_HG posted:
zuizide posted: You have a very odd take on things, but I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
Me saying what someone offered for something on /a is not an uncommon event in the least (whether it be a bad or good offer). As far as me not knowing he was under me, that is true. I have been busy in real life with moving and taking over a business. If I had known, I would have told him in tells to keep his mmds and come get the wands. Also, me "picking on" people under me isn't uncommon either. They do it to me as well. What we don't do however is tell each other to eff off because of it. We can take a bit of ribbing from others here and there, if he couldn't then under me isn't the place for him. I was shocked by the reaction and so was his patron. But so be it, it's not that big of a deal. I posted it here because I thought it was amusing, and it is.
Haha... i remembered one time where i gagged you. I was curious if it could be done to a monarch, and lo and behold, boom!
Anywho, Zui's one of the most generous individual's i've met on FF. And definately, a very stand up trader, obviously.
Also, Arctic, you can see that Zui wasn't making fun of him or talking "crap", was just astounded at how much he had been offerred. It wasn't necessarily rude of him to talk in /a, he could also be confirming with the allegiance of how much a price has fluctuated and seeing if anyone else has bought/sold/traded at those prices. As Zui mentioned, he has said he has been very busy in r/l, and most likely, little time to wheel and deal in AC.
It sounds like you have a vested interest in this. Possibly, PG ended up under you after this, and this is why you're attacking Zui. Take a step back and look at the facts, bud.
Darth
Hardly. I quit almost immediately after the patch because they ruined the last parts of the game I found fun. What I'm tired of is monarchs, and there are WAY more than one out there, thinking that they are above common decency. Sure he's generous, I know this for a fact, but he obviously knew the value of the items, or he wouldn't have made a "cheap ^" remark would he? I was just commenting on the fact that it was rude in the first place, and the fact that it was brought here could say a lot of things about a person. The first that comes to my mind is he needed reassurance that he WASNT being a jackass. Seems I'm not totally alone in thinking this was unnecessary.
Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
Arctic_Blast posted:
Darth_Sauron_HG posted:
zuizide posted: You have a very odd take on things, but I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
Me saying what someone offered for something on /a is not an uncommon event in the least (whether it be a bad or good offer). As far as me not knowing he was under me, that is true. I have been busy in real life with moving and taking over a business. If I had known, I would have told him in tells to keep his mmds and come get the wands. Also, me "picking on" people under me isn't uncommon either. They do it to me as well. What we don't do however is tell each other to eff off because of it. We can take a bit of ribbing from others here and there, if he couldn't then under me isn't the place for him. I was shocked by the reaction and so was his patron. But so be it, it's not that big of a deal. I posted it here because I thought it was amusing, and it is.
Haha... i remembered one time where i gagged you. I was curious if it could be done to a monarch, and lo and behold, boom!
Anywho, Zui's one of the most generous individual's i've met on FF. And definately, a very stand up trader, obviously.
Also, Arctic, you can see that Zui wasn't making fun of him or talking "crap", was just astounded at how much he had been offerred. It wasn't necessarily rude of him to talk in /a, he could also be confirming with the allegiance of how much a price has fluctuated and seeing if anyone else has bought/sold/traded at those prices. As Zui mentioned, he has said he has been very busy in r/l, and most likely, little time to wheel and deal in AC.
It sounds like you have a vested interest in this. Possibly, PG ended up under you after this, and this is why you're attacking Zui. Take a step back and look at the facts, bud.
Darth
Hardly. I quit almost immediately after the patch because they ruined the last parts of the game I found fun. What I'm tired of is monarchs, and there are WAY more than one out there, thinking that they are above common decency. Sure he's generous, I know this for a fact, but he obviously knew the value of the items, or he wouldn't have made a "cheap ^" remark would he? I was just commenting on the fact that it was rude in the first place, and the fact that it was brought here could say a lot of things about a person. The first that comes to my mind is he needed reassurance that he WASNT being a jackass. Seems I'm not totally alone in thinking this was unnecessary.
Not everything that someone says is 100% serious. You don't know his allegiance so you should just stop talking. I think 99% of the crap that is said in allegiance is sarcastic. It is a fairly close group of people who play, they know each other very well and can take criticism from each other because its almost always someone trying to give someone else a hard time for a good laugh.
EDIT: Also, it is obvious that Plutonium (whoever that is) was trying to low ball Zui and then when he got caught, played the, I just came back card.
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
Go_Meat posted: EDIT: Also, it is obvious that Plutonium (whoever that is) was trying to low ball Zui and then when he got caught, played the, I just came back card.
Unrelated to the broader discussion of who is the bigger asshole here, I am just curious why it is obvious he played the "I just came back card". I see poeple come back all the time that have no clue what things are going for. When I came back a couple of years ago I made a few blind offers that were way off the mark...I just had no idea.
Not saying it isn't possible that he knew better...just not sure why it is "obvious", unless you just assume everyone is a liar on general principle. *shrug*
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
BigBor posted:
Go_Meat posted: EDIT: Also, it is obvious that Plutonium (whoever that is) was trying to low ball Zui and then when he got caught, played the, I just came back card.
Unrelated to the broader discussion of who is the bigger asshole here, I am just curious why it is obvious he played the "I just came back card". I see poeple come back all the time that have no clue what things are going for. When I came back a couple of years ago I made a few blind offers that were way off the mark...I just had no idea.
Not saying it isn't possible that he knew better...just not sure why it is "obvious", unless you just assume everyone is a liar on general principle. *shrug*
More of an assumption that most people are liars. But if someone is advertising over max wands, how long do you have to be gone to offer only 100 mmds? Also, maybe this is just me, but I would ask my allegiance what a fair price was before I would throw out an offer, or make sure I had some sort of grip at all on the economy.
Would you go to a foreign country where you had no idea about prices and just start offering them money without having any clue about the item's worth?
Therefore, I am guessing he had some sort of clue about the economy before he made that offer.
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
Go_Meat posted:
BigBor posted:
Go_Meat posted: Would you go to a foreign country where you had no idea about prices and just start offering them money without having any clue about the item's worth?
I travel to Central and South America on business a few times a year. I get approached by street vendors hocking their wares all the time. Sometimes something catches my eye. I often have no idea the going rate (especially for local crafted items), so I offer what it is worth to me. Sometimes they will haggle and we would reach an agreed upon amount. A few times they just say yes (which tells me I probably offered a bit too much). Many times they would counter offer a price much higher than my offer and I could tell it was more expensive than what I had thought and it wasn't going to be a sale as it wasn't worth that much to me. So yeah, it happens quite a bit.
The AC economy is in such a ragged state these days that prices are all over the board. Just in the past week, I have responded to several "GC keyring for sale - pst". The lowest price I paid was 150, the highest I paid was 225, and I had several other people ask for between 250 up to 500, which I turned down. I bought a +15, +130, +20MD BD8 bow off a bot the other night for 50. I saw an almost identical one later in the week on a different bot asking for 200. There are some ALL OVER THE BOARD prices going on these days. Even Zui, who knows more about AC trading and the AC economy than anyone I know posted a thread a few weeks ago asking for pricing advice as he had been gone for several weeks. So apparantly you don't have to be gone very long to be out of touch with pricing.
The whole idea of someone offering an item or items for trade without naming a price first and then getting offended that the offer isn't up to what they feel it is worth is sad. A simple "no thanks, looking for more" is enough. Yeah, you, Zui, McKay, Gus, and me...sure we trade a lot and probably know the fair price range most of the time...but there are far more players that hardly ever trade or buy off bots and don't have a clue. Long term players in /a are often asking what the going rate is for a fairly common item. It is not that they are stupid, they just are not heavy into the trading side of AC. They don't run tradebots, they don't shop bots much and most of their gear they got from friends or their patron. They just log in to quest or hang out. There really are folks that just don't know. Quite a few actually.
You mileage may vary. No ill will intended. Just sharing my opinion. Peace.
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
BigBor posted:
Go_Meat posted: EDIT: Also, it is obvious that Plutonium (whoever that is) was trying to low ball Zui and then when he got caught, played the, I just came back card.
Unrelated to the broader discussion of who is the bigger asshole here, I am just curious why it is obvious he played the "I just came back card". I see poeple come back all the time that have no clue what things are going for. When I came back a couple of years ago I made a few blind offers that were way off the mark...I just had no idea.
Not saying it isn't possible that he knew better...just not sure why it is "obvious", unless you just assume everyone is a liar on general principle. *shrug*
Hell, I play now and I still don't know what many things are worth! LoL!
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Date Posted:3/4/12 4:43pmSubject:
I really feel bad for people sometimes.
zuizide posted:
BigBor posted: Hell, I play now and I still don't know what many things are worth! LoL!
Haha...yeah bud. That was really my point (as you will see in my follow up post). Not everyone knows prices. Heck there are more than a half dozen returnees in our clan right now that have been gone 4+ years and just came back. They don't even know how to play the game anymore much less the going rate for things.
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