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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? [Locked] |
Glowstuff Posts: 69
Registered: 2003-6-9 15:44:56
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
Implement an NPC that you can buy RoG jewelry from.
There would be three separate tiers.
Bonus level 1-24 - 100g
Bonus level 25-39 - 400g
Bonus level 40-50 1p.(rare chance to receive an item Utility that exceeds bonus level 50. Bonus level 51: lo,l hopefully mythic can get this to work if they're willing)
After purchase each item received will have a set of random stats.
^ Probably wont go like this, just brainstorming.
Also: Fix the level 51 bonus level issue please, thank you.
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Date Posted:
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
Implement Jewelcrafting like they intended 8 years ago and make it a ridiculously expensive craft.
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poenadare Posts: 381
Registered: 2001-11-5 08:09:53
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Both ideas are great money sinks. Yes please.
I don't see Mythic having the manpower to implement any kind of jewelcrafting. However, I don't think it's too much to ask to add one master level spellcrafting recipe that produces a random RoG item.
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OldFriar Posts: 27
Registered: 2005-3-23 06:29:07
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There's little point in adding a money sink unless they start to address the excessive sources of platinum available in the game.
If they don't address the platinum sources before adding such a thing, they simply increase the desire for all players to gain more platinum - potentially making the problem worse.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
i don't agree oldfriar, there's pretty major inflation, and there's essentially nothing to do with platinum except trade it between players. I don't know how you get the idea that this is just going to create more problems, I don't think this is justified.
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Morgash Posts: 141
Registered: 2003-1-28 20:53:00
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1/1/00 12:00am
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
If there were inflation in the game's economy, prices would be generally rising; however what we have is actually the opposite - massive deflation. Prices for most items have fallen like a rock off a jupiter cliff.
As far as a money sink goes, I don't see it. They made the game easier, almost to the point of making money useless. There is no apparent desire to make the economy function as an integral part of the game. If they made any money sinks of significance, it would end up boosting the relative value of everything we currently buy - which is something people tend to bitch and moan about and I agree is generally bad for casual players.
Adding jewelry-crafting would make templating useless. Everyone would be perfect for little or no cost. If you price it so its "difficult" then you price out most casual players - how would that be perceived? If you don't make it difficult to attain, you make all the quested gear virtually useless overnight - why would you quest/buy NPC gear if you could make comparable PC jewelry? And if you couldn't make competitive/better PC jewelry, why would you bother when you already have super easy NPC gear?
Not gonna happen.
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Date Posted:
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
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Fix the bugs first!
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
Morgash posted:
If there were inflation in the game's economy, prices would be generally rising; however what we have is actually the opposite - massive deflation. Prices for most items have fallen like a rock off a jupiter cliff.
Perhaps in the short term there has been deflation, but I really don't know what you are talking about. The prices for everything has gone down because instead of killing dragons now, all you need to do is farm for dragon scales, and on top of that, the dragon items have been out for so long that everyones had time to put them on all of their toons and there are thousands and thousands of them floating around not being used, as opposed to when they first came out and no one had any, and a Soul Glimmer would cost 120 plat.
Here's the fact. Money used to be hard to come by, and crafting was hugely expensive. People only needed plat because crafting was expensive, there was essentially no other money sink in the game, until housing, and a few things added later. Money is so easy to come by now and everyones got LGM crafters. People have hundreds, even thousands of plat sitting around doing nothing, and it costs like 10p or something to get an LGM crafting skill. I don't know how you can call this anything except inflation.
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Nabdya Posts: 34
Registered: 2006-12-4 22:15:47
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
Chilliconcarvy posted:
Fix the bugs first!
^^^This guy for Pres.
I think money sink is bad idea, no need for it... some items still cost ya a chunk for example, Levi ring of Deep they and the ML10 weapons cost 2-4x as much than they used to.
I used to sell that stuff for 30p (or even give it away), always gonna have Alts to temp out and replace broken gear, heck spent roughly 144p just on my weapons (I bought the glass instead of farming, I know it's laziness, I just dont PvE much anymore..)
Forgot all about the jewelcrafting, I always thought that was a cool idea but, as was stated above Mythic prolly doesnt have the resources for that atm, would be nice to kick crafting up a notch somehow though...
At least make it so, once somthing is grey con to craft, you should have a better chance for a Masterpiece...
This prolly wouldnt be that big of an issue if we didnt have plat farmers and the ppl that feed into it by buying the plat.
Kinda reminds me of the realm-timer, just because Mythic gave us a rope, doesnt mean we need to hang ourselves w/it...
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Date Posted:
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With all these people looking for RoG jewelery, is it time for a new money sink? |
Nabdya posted:
I think money sink is bad idea, no need for it... some items still cost ya a chunk for example, Levi ring of Deep they and the ML10 weapons cost 2-4x as much than they used to.
Levi Ring of the Deep costs so much because there is so much plat sitting around! This is because money is so much easier to get than it used to, and there's nothing to spend it on, except for trading between players, this is not the same as a money sink.
When you spend money on a merchant in the game, there becomes less plat overall in the economy, and then if some bastard wants to sell a rare item for 200 platinum pieces, no one is going to pay that, unless he is the only guy who can possibly have those items, and therefore no one can undercut his price.
Right now the only real money sink that exists in the game is people who have lots of money and then unsubscribe their accounts without first giving away their platinum, but this clearly can never balance the effect of actual players making platinum.
There's inflation in the game because the entire in game economy as a whole takes in more platinum than is spent back on merchants. For there to be no inflation, you want the amount of coin spent on all NPC's (or money sinks) in the entire game to be pretty close to what is made from killing mobs, questing, and even killing in PvP. The overall effect of this is that gold is in demand because everyone wants it, and then its rare to get items that cost anywhere near 100p. As long as there are enough people who have these items so that one guy can undercut the other guys price by a little bit, they will go down in price to the point that someone says, "you know what, screw that I'm not farming these items they don't sell for enough anymore".
So if its not completely clear by now, money sinks that take platinum out of the economy will actually lower the prices of expensive items. And guess what, just because Mythic introduces a money sink into the economy, this doesn't mean that you have to spend money on it, it would just be nice if there wasn't all the extra plat sitting around in the economy doing nothing. On the other hand, I don't think this is really that important anyways.
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