Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
I play a Bonedancer. I have been suppression since the begining. I like it and I do well. I am rr11 after all. As for the examples that I gave I don't challenge any of those classes because I never win. If I see a sorc I will loose. Even if I get my pets to charge. He will simply MOC and I have to run, or I will die. I think MOC is little over the edge, but I dont think that will ever change. If I see a heavy tank, he almost always has purge. I can drop TWF, I can root, but I hit for around 100 damage with dds. Remember we dont get spec dds in suppresion. My pets do not disease or snare, and are usually just ignored. He hits me once I am down up to half my hit points, and am usually snared. Besides he usually has charge too. If I see a wizard his bolts have 1750 range, my dds have a 1500 range. If I see him first, it usually makes little difference. Three bolts tend to kill casters.
Now I'm not saying that any of this is bad, but it can be frustrating. I belive that inherently some classes abilities do better in certain situations then others, but the BD's advantages seem to go away. The 4 sec lifetap was changed to 8 sec. Healer pets were reduced in healing power and when they start healing. ML9 was nerfed. Now we are seeing the pets no longer able not assist the commander. People want to take charge away from pets, they want the pets to slow down, they want pets to be worthless it seems. What advantage should the BD retain? Single target interupt? TWF monkey? Pet charge? That isn't much compared to some other classes.
The BD does not have a well defined roll in RvR. My job is to intrupt when I am in an 8 man, because my dps is low compared to other casters. Our pets make up the difference by inturupting or did.
In the end, I would love to be able to kill any class, and any class be able to kill me, but that isn't how DAOC is set up. Sometimes the deck is stacked against you, and you have to deal with it.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
martock66 posted: I play a Bonedancer. I have been suppression since the begining. I like it and I do well. I am rr11 after all. As for the examples that I gave I don't challenge any of those classes because I never win. If I see a sorc I will loose. Even if I get my pets to charge. He will simply MOC and I have to run, or I will die. I think MOC is little over the edge, but I dont think that will ever change. If I see a heavy tank, he almost always has purge. I can drop TWF, I can root, but I hit for around 100 damage with dds. Remember we dont get spec dds in suppresion. My pets do not disease or snare, and are usually just ignored. He hits me once I am down up to half my hit points, and am usually snared. Besides he usually has charge too. If I see a wizard his bolts have 1750 range, my dds have a 1500 range. If I see him first, it usually makes little difference. Three bolts tend to kill casters.
First, all I hear is "If i come up against certain classes i run because i lose." That must be nice being able to run away.
1 Purge??? Dont you have like 3-4 cc's? Pet Stun, Pet Snare, Root, And twf???? And if you dont have pet snare, well, i dont know what to tell you... spec some in dark... idk
Heavy tanks dont have charge. Valk, Savage, Zerk, BM, Vamp, Merc. None are heavy tanks, maybe im just over scrutinizing details here though.
Now I'm not saying that any of this is bad, but it can be frustrating. I belive that inherently some classes abilities do better in certain situations then others, but the BD's advantages seem to go away. The 4 sec lifetap was changed to 8 sec. Healer pets were reduced in healing power and when they start healing. ML9 was nerfed. Now we are seeing the pets no longer able not assist the commander. People want to take charge away from pets, they want the pets to slow down, they want pets to be worthless it seems. What advantage should the BD retain? Single target interupt? TWF monkey? Pet charge? That isn't much compared to some other classes.
The BD does not have a well defined roll in RvR. My job is to intrupt when I am in an 8 man, because my dps is low compared to other casters. Our pets make up the difference by inturupting or did.
In the end, I would love to be able to kill any class, and any class be able to kill me, but that isn't how DAOC is set up. Sometimes the deck is stacked against you, and you have to deal with it.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
To sum up imapawn's blather ...
blah blah blah ... I died in an RvR zone ...
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
martock66 posted: I play a Bonedancer. I have been suppression since the begining. I like it and I do well. I am rr11 after all. As for the examples that I gave I don't challenge any of those classes because I never win. If I see a sorc I will loose. Even if I get my pets to charge. He will simply MOC and I have to run, or I will die. I think MOC is little over the edge, but I dont think that will ever change. If I see a heavy tank, he almost always has purge. I can drop TWF, I can root, but I hit for around 100 damage with dds. Remember we dont get spec dds in suppresion. My pets do not disease or snare, and are usually just ignored. He hits me once I am down up to half my hit points, and am usually snared. Besides he usually has charge too. If I see a wizard his bolts have 1750 range, my dds have a 1500 range. If I see him first, it usually makes little difference. Three bolts tend to kill casters.
Now I'm not saying that any of this is bad, but it can be frustrating. I belive that inherently some classes abilities do better in certain situations then others, but the BD's advantages seem to go away. The 4 sec lifetap was changed to 8 sec. Healer pets were reduced in healing power and when they start healing. ML9 was nerfed. Now we are seeing the pets no longer able not assist the commander. People want to take charge away from pets, they want the pets to slow down, they want pets to be worthless it seems. What advantage should the BD retain? Single target interupt? TWF monkey? Pet charge? That isn't much compared to some other classes.
The BD does not have a well defined roll in RvR. My job is to intrupt when I am in an 8 man, because my dps is low compared to other casters. Our pets make up the difference by inturupting or did.
In the end, I would love to be able to kill any class, and any class be able to kill me, but that isn't how DAOC is set up. Sometimes the deck is stacked against you, and you have to deal with it.
Suppression isnt what it used to be... the OP lawl my pets out heal your damage spec where you circle strafe pressing isnta when its up.
Your spec is 1 of the reasons you have trouble. Darkness spec, an Armsman will never get to you unless you afk midfight. Disease, pet snares, + your own CC.
Bone army... pet attack and laugh. That sorc will have to MoC Lifetap to survive the pet attack, swapping Pet Attack for a timer RA is win for you.
Suppression is more win for PvE, RvR its the bottom of the specs.
Spec for RvR then say the class isnt silly.
Oh and Heavy Tanks cant get charge as you mentioned.
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PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title Posts: 517 Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
ba is the pve spec too
and supp isnt bad for rvr you still have melee pets and the ablative pet heals and debuffed lifetap make you one gay interrupt machine
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
martock66 posted: Mythic is already taking the ablity of pets to target seprate enemies. Maybe we can take away charge and speed from the pets too.
As a BD there is a lot of things I will simply just die. A sorc will mez my pets and MOC and I'm dead. Heavy tanks just run through my pets and 3 shot me (I am speced suppression after all). Wizard 3 bolts wipe me almost every time. Should they be nerfed too? Remember BD pets make up a good part of the effectiveness of the BD.
The question is should the BD be able to have an advantage over something in the game, or just be a kicking stool for evey class?
Everybody dies to a sorc that used MoC, don't say BD's aren't good cuz ur not excluded from this group. Casters are supposed to die to tanks that get within melee range unless they're able to quickcast CC, which likely won't work anyways. And yes, casters die to a Wizard with 3 bolts quite often, this has nothing to do with being a BD.
PasswordLLOTH Title: i can haz title Posts: 517 Registered: 2007-6-13 17:45:05
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:00amSubject:
Nerf BD pets speed!
also zone of unmana rapes moc
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