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DarkPCK  Title: Got to go house is on fire.
Posts: 457
Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
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Pendragon coming down Thursday 1/19/12 for Patch 1.111b |
Windwalkr posted:
I have to say, calling the Banelord nerfs a bug fix after this many years is a bit comical. I'm pretty sure they were intended to interrupt all along, as there has been a round of nerfs to especially the radius on these long long ago, if they didn't intend for it to interrupt I think they would have "fixed" it back then.
It's a clear nerf, simple as that. Considering it's called Zone of Unmana, I even find it a bit ironic to nerf the interrupt on especially that ability.
Read this from over five years ago. It went live in June 2006 but it kept interrupting, i.e. they never fixed it properly.
Windwalkr posted:
I also don't get the range boost on Confusion for Bards (in fact all of the improvements to Confusion are completely unnecessary IMO), simply over the top for an already over the top class. Strong getting stronger, weak (Mauler/BD) getting weaker. 
Because RM confuse spells are 1500 range. And BDs are far from weak currently...
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DakRT  Posts: 69
Registered: 2005-2-28 05:50:16
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I didn't comment on BD's Dark, as I was more focused on other areas. This whole interrupt mini patch is horrible, through-and-through. Nerfing BD, and banelord is totally unnecessary. Never was a complaint that I've heard so why now? If you're going to nerf "taunt" then do so across the board, meaning Friars & Pallies. Although I don't agree with it at all.
However, I still say necro's need addressed and why are maulers taunt being touched? A class with a population of 2 at prime time?
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DarkPCK Title: Got to go house is on fire.
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Registered: 2003-12-14 12:38:01
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Pendragon coming down Thursday 1/19/12 for Patch 1.111b |
DakRT posted:
DarkPCK posted:
DakRT posted:
And why are all the patches of late have some form of hib loven? Play Hibs much Mythic?
Seriously? You realize the nerfs to BD, Chanter, and Banelord interrupts is a huge indirect boost to alb fotm setups and its many variants.
I didn't comment on BD's Dark, as I was more focused on other areas.
You didn't have to, it's still not substantial Hib love. Hib groups are still not great in the range and pet departments, though it has improved against Mid groups a fair amount. Alb groups with competent players that don't make blatant mistakes will still do really well against Hib groups though.
DakRT posted:
This whole interrupt mini patch is horrible, through-and-through. Nerfing BD, and banelord is totally unnecessary. Never was a complaint that I've heard so why now?
BD body debuff was a big reason it was grouped in the first place. It was even supposed to be fixed five years ago, but they screwed up.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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DakRT posted:
And why are all the patches of late have some form of hib loven? Play Hibs much Mythic?
are you stupid?
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Corfel  Posts: 510
Registered: 2008-4-3 12:02:45
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Bringing the 3rd realm up to speed with the other 2 finally after 10 years and that's because hib is favoured?
lol
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Vanesyra Posts: 108
Registered: 2009-12-8 17:31:44
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i think removing the interrupt from instant debuffs on both bd and enchanter is a good thing. there was never a reason for them to interrupt while no other instant debuff did. that surly hits the bonedancer hard, but does not make him useless at all. and keep in mind, they can easy reduce the timer of the instant life tap or add any other instant dd if they want to do so.
the banelord nerf is just the real evil part about that patch. also this is hitting the bonedancer harder then the remove of that one interrupt. if you use the banelords correctly they save your life, but without a interrupt on them all kinds of caster groups will get a way over the top. while all off tanks loose a main part of their utility. at the current state of the game i would have called caster groups to be already a bit stronger then tank group. so seeing the zoa'kat nerf was a good thing on getting the stuff even more balanced, but that banelord thing is destroying everything.
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Windwalkr Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Registered: 2002-7-26 11:47:42
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DarkPCK posted:
Read this from over five years ago. It went live in June 2006 but it kept interrupting, i.e. they never fixed it properly.
Searched it there is no mention of Banelord, Interrupt, Zone of Unmana on it...can you just quote it next time, because as far as I can tell it's not in there.
I remember the radius getting nerfed, and the fact that the abilities broke stealth, but never have I heard anyone refer to BN interrupts as being a bug.
DarkPCK posted:
Because RM confuse spells are 1500 range. And BDs are far from weak currently...
Well Maulers certainly are, and I've rarely seen BDs out so I assumed they must be weak since the latest nerfs. They've eaten quite a few interrupt nerfs, so I'm just not sure what these nerfs are about, nor have I seen anyone publicly complain about them.
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etilader Title: Oldest Player in DAoC
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Registered: 2003-3-12 17:04:05
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Pendragon coming down Thursday 1/19/12 for Patch 1.111b |
The patch notes on the wiki are not complete. Spell posted the original notes on the #ywain thread. I wasn't able to find them either but I do remember when they came out. You still have 3 interrupting banelords on different timers so the interrupt factor of BL is still there. The only difference now is that you have to decide whether you want the amazing benefits that Zone and Demo give you or you just need an interrupt at the time.
The BD/Enchanter debuff was also nerfed around the same time as the BL's. At some point all the abilities that were suppose to no longer interrupt started working again if you were grouped (maybe they did all along). The reason it went so long without being noticed is because when the dev's would test it they were solo dueling each other and it would work as intended in that scenario.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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I'm good with the changes, but I'm still wondering when they'll address the run speed issues created by 1.110. Their "fix" doesn't do any good.
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Aswakhtor Posts: 135
Registered: 2005-1-18 16:44:43
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name a reason to group a BD now. Pets just focus one person and only one instant interupt. Better off grouping a spiritmaster.
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